104 hp inspiration

[ludvista29]

Hey all… I’m back.

This is where I’m at with my 104hp skiff right now:

Really enjoying my choices so far but I’m not sure in what direction I want to go. My next confirmed purchase is the Mutant Brain for OP-Z integration but after that I’m not quite sure. Probably going to swap blinds out for a veils or a uVCA, and then I’m a little lost.

I basically will have about 36hp to play with after I grab the mutant brain.

Morphagene is really interesting to me, but thats about it. Any utilities or effects processors (filters, reverbs, delays?) that maybe I’m overlooking? In my skiff’s current state I feel as if it’s missing something.

[coreyr]

Without knowing what you’re wanting out of your rack its a little hard, but with your current setup, I’d probably go for a filter of some kind.

I’m a big fan of the way 3 sis sounds and what it can do with some creative patching. And it just looks so good next to a mangrove

Some kind of effects/signal processing can go a long way!

While it can be cumbersome with the menues and the inputs doing so may different things, i found a disting to be really beneficial while trying to figure out what kind modules to fill out my first skiff.

[ludvista29]

Oh yes I know, sorry for the slightly vague/open ended question. Figured hearing some peoples ideas may spark a little rabbit hole of research for myself.

3sis is absolutely on my radar right now. Filter was something I really feel like this set up is lacking right now. While patching I keep feeling like I want to manipulate my audio more, and I just don’t have anything to do so…yet.

Been looking for a disting mk4 on reverb recently, for that same purpose. I’m a little weary of having a 3rd menu based module in my skiff but it may be super useful.

[coreyr]

Its really not so bad depending on how you use it, my mk3 frequently plays one role for months at a time. A printed pdf cheat sheet really helps when changing to a new mode as well. Its usually “I wish I had a module that did X” and then realizing that oh yeah, I do!

Might i also recommend the bastl quattro figgaro for compact vca duties. I just got one after over looking it for a while not having realized jow many goodies are paced into 10hp. Its a quad vca that has some interesting normalization, has a cv inversion section, variable response curve, and overdrives nicely.

[louis]

I’m working on a smaller setup at the moment - currently 3u 84 hp down from 9u 84hp but I plan to go for about 104hp in the future as I think it might be a sweet spot.

My 84hp initially had Morphagene in it but I took it out last week. It’s great fun to play around with and you can create some amazing textures, but it always felt somehow separate to the rest of the rack. It was a second voice, essentially - and I decided that if I was going to use it I’d rather have it as a standalone instrument ideally in a 4ms Pod type thing (though I’ve heard it doesn’t fit). Instead, my small system would focus on what can be achieved with one voice: currently an STO into a 2hp LPF and then into Magneto with both Stages and Maths for modulation and envelopes. And I guess that’s the decision - do you want the 104hp to be a voice contributing to a wider setup? (e.g. other instruments, computers, synths, etc.) Or do you want it to be its own thing with multiple simultaneous voices? I’m sure if I’d spent more time with Morphagene I could have better incorporated it.

I can really recommend Sisters as a filter and I’ve been hot swapping it with the STO using it as a main voice too - which is also really lovely. It’s also lovely with the Mangrove, which I’ve never been able to tame so it’s sitting in a box for now until I get the slightly larger rack.

I love the Magneto. Can’t recommend it enough, even with all the hp. You can take your one voice and turn it into a chorus.

One of the reasons I’m pairing down is to get away from the indecision that comes from having Plaits, Rings, etc. all in one case. I’ve found more pleasure and more immediacy in modulating a smaller number of sound sources. So how about a Cold Mac so you can have the Mangrove and Braids dance and swirl around each other? I’ve never really understood mine - but I’m hoping that’ll change now!

As for the Disting, ultimately I found I was mostly using it for a few key functions and I preferred instead hiving those out to 2hp modules instead.

[damon]

Its really not so bad depending on how you use it, my mk3 frequently plays one role for months at a time.

I second (third?) the utility of the Disting (in my case, mk4). I’m extremely hesitant to include modules that require menu diving in my modular but I’m happy to make the exception with the Disting since it’s so useful for filling holes, especially in a small(ish) case. I even ended up with two, partly because in addition to a bunch of useful utility stuff, it’s got some nice sample player algorithms and the new firmware includes a simple but useful (very) long delay/looper algorithm.

A printed pdf cheat sheet really helps when changing to a new mode as well.

In case you haven’t seen the thread, I made a web-based cheat sheet for the Disting mk4. Info here:

Disting mk4 Quick Guide

I’ve made a mobile-friendly web-based cheat sheet for the Disting mk4. The guide includes the ins, outs, and parameter values of each of the algorithms. In short, if there’s a chart in the manual, it’s in the guide. That is, it’s the basic info from the manual about each algorithm without the paragraphs of explanatory text. You probably don’t want to use this guide to get familiar with the Disting, but once you are, you might find it a handy reference. There’s a few other minor bells and whistl…

[chrlz]

Just put this together and excited to see where it goes.

Left all of the oscillators and sequencing behind to make a live improv looping rig(primarily viola with occasional vocals for variety). OP-1 clocks the Tempi. El Cap is receiving a mixer aux send, and the return is multed for looping or processing in the modular.

[vicimity]

Slashing my entire setup in half I ended up with this. Would like to fill the remaining 8 hp with somehting, not sure what though.

Friends of this:

• Keystep
• OP-1 and Digitone
• Cocoquantus 2
• Reverb + Delay pedals and external looopers.

Considerations…

• En extra w/ with Slashes for (even) more looping capabilities
• ES-8 (would take away some of the direct interaction, not to happy about including computer / iPad in the workflow although intrigued by the possibilities)
• Small utility mixers, like 2 x 2hp mix before Morpha and w/

Input and feedback is always appreciated!

[prussian_zen]

I would always go for more modulation.
Personally, I’m really happy with the Harvestman Kermit (which is 10 hp).

An 8 hp Nonlinearcircuits Triple Sloth V2 could be nice?

[maztik8r]

How about an Expert Sleepers FH-2? It should work as a MIDI to CV converter for OP-1/Digitone/Keystep and won’t require you to hook up a computer. You could also use it as a clock/envelope generator/LFO generator/euclidean pattern generator.

[vicimity]

I decided to go with the ES-8, it will open up for new possibilities and as I don’t intend to grow from 104 I will be able to have endless racks integrated in VCV and exploration of Audulus will be fun!

[kbit]

Almost the same set up as the last time I posted here, but I must say moving them from my larger case to this skiff makes it feel more inviting. Relativity wins again.

[renegog]

looks like some cool stereo processing

[Foxhood]

Damn! I didn’t know wrong had a Mid/Side converter. I always do it ITB, do you find it that more useful to process the signals before sending to the box. Does filtering the sides with say, the 3S gives it a more stable image than filtering the L/R independently? So many questions…

[_mark]

Indeed - on several planes… are we seeing Mac, Sisters and the Worng in a feedback soup @kbit - would love a sound clip if it resulted in anything interesting?

[kbit]

@_mark actually no feedback in this patch, didn’t even think of that possiblity. Definitely gonna experiment more in that realm

@Foxhood I built the Worng module after experimenting with Cold Mac as a mid/side processor and having both is really great. I do almost nothing in the box so these modules are all I have for context. The way I have it patched up now is all about pushing and pulling the stereo field in different ways.

The various outputs of Just Friends (running Just Type Synthesis) are run into Nearness to create a stereo spread. Mid is going to Sisters Low, Side is going to Sisters High, and those outputs are going through Mac’s Left and Right before returning to the Mid/Side returns. Crossfading will swap the Mid/Side signals at each extreme with the side signal getting increasingly attenuated toward noon.

I also have the mix out of JF going through Sisters Center, attenuated, through the tahn for grit, then mixed into Mac’s Offer input. Increasing the level if this signal adds more volume/distortion while decreasing the stereo spread. There’s a lot to tweak in a relatively small amount of parameters. No clips ATM but perhaps soon

[philmaguire]

Hi all,

Back after a while away. Looking for some input into my 104hp case, as I’m a bit stuck and uninspired with it. I’m basically after two things from my modular: drone, with interesting waveshaping options/slow modulation, and chaotic, free-improv-ish stuff. Here is what I currently have:

I’m using the A-118/A-136/A-196 as a noise/random source; the A-136 is really nice for messing up CV and sending into the PLL for blips and scratches. But, it’s 24hp for that, which is a lot in a case of this size, so something smaller would be nice. Also I feel like it’s lacking modulation sources in general, so I’ve sketched this:

Any thoughts? I’ve never used a Mysteron, and I know they’re discontinued, but I feel like they could do a lot of what I’m after. The Sloths is a no brainer for slow modulation, and Let’s Splosh for expanding things like the Doepfer modules.

I’m struggling to put a coherent case together, basically. I’m after two simple but distinct ‘sounds’, but the endless world of Euro is making that tricky. I have a SoftPop that I use a whole bunch more than this case, and that’s just two oscillators, a filter, and some feedback. I’m used to that, and performing with broken cassette players and blank tapes. 104hp feels like a huge space to try and fill.

I find limitations enjoyable and struggle to work without them. Help?

tl;dr - Help me find wacky modulation of a couple of audio sources, with a comb filter/delay! And should I forget drone and just make that in Max/MSP? Or, should I get rid of the lot and replace it with a monosynth and a Rainmaker?

[kbit]

Everything you’ve said makes me think the Benjolin would up your alley.

[kkempes]

84hp full of sounds!!

[renegog]

im also in the 84hp camp with 62hp of mannequins +teletype so its cool to see what u did with the rest I’m curious abt mixing and how you’re turning your signal into stereo - stackable out of the 2hp mix? 2 channels or optomix out respectively to L & R with 2hp as submix? also how do you like the teletype expanders in a set up this size?