#167

Mangrove is high on my (short) list. I’ve looked at Dixie and STO or really anything at that size and price. for when i actually buy something again bleh

#168

This was a really great thread. I just read most everything from the top.

I’m not sure 4 U 104 hp racks fit the spirit of the topic. That said the topic title could probably clarify the intent with 3 U 104 inspiration.

That aside my real question is: what modules make up a good 104 hp rack?

Obviously this is going to be different things to different people. What if we abstracted and listed the essentials. for example the MN Cartesian system is a great system that fits this topic, and appears in this thread a couple times. It’s made of:

  • Osciallator: STO
  • Oscillator: Telharmonic
  • Rene: Sequencer
  • Analog Voltage utility: Maths
    • LFO
    • Envelope
    • Clock
    • Other utility functions
  • Random Voltage: Wogglebug
  • Low Pass Gate: LxD
    • VCFA
  • Ring Mod: ModDemix
  • Output: Rosie

So that’s more abstractly:

  • Oscillator
  • Oscillator
  • Sequencer
  • LFO/Envelope/Utility
  • Random source
  • VCF+VCA
  • Ring Mod/Wav Folder/Other
  • Output mixer

This seems like a really solid arrangement that looks a lot like classics. Other racks trade in the sequencer for other modules like a sampler (phonohene/morphogene etc.) many added a delay.

I like looking at the 104 hp grouping in these terms it’s fun to see the tools that people pull in to their systems like brushes or color palettes.

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#169

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  • clock
  • oscillator
  • oscillator
  • filter
  • ?
  • random source
  • envelope/Leo/utility
  • VCA
  • ?
  • ?
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#170

•LPG
•Mixer
•Effect
•Output

#171

I’d rather have more ideas shared in one place than a lot of fragmented topics, myself. 4U 104hp is a lot more constrained than a 6U 208hp case.

Is my Structure EP-96 allowed to play?

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Can’t upload current state of the case because my phone does not love Modulargrid :slight_smile:

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#172

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  • touch/tactile input
  • oscillator
  • filter
  • utility/LFO/envelope
  • granular delay reverb?
  • VCA
  • ?
#174

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  • Squiggles / LFO / noises
  • Dusty noises
  • Functions / oscillations
  • Oscillations / functions / VCAs
  • Filter / mixing / hair
  • Sequencer / touch control / CV memory
  • Pulses / bouncing balls
  • Shquarses
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#175

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@soggybag I guess broadly speaking this fits the System Cartesian model, with some “redundancy” between Just Friends and either Maths or the Mangroves (although, like, in actual fact no redundancy).

  • uhhh, everything you can dream up / sequencer
  • sequencer (well, with LFOs if I get an Arc)
  • pure bliss
  • calculus class, also envelopes
  • oscillator
  • “spice in your modular melange” / meta-modulation
  • oscillator
  • filters
  • LPG
  • persistence / futurenows / loopers / delays / samplers

Would love ergonomics suggestions, though! currently I’ve got it as below, which works really well, the Clouds provides a good amount of cushion room for playing w/ W/. I suspect that the LxD would do so as well.

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#176

You could free up some hp with a uclouds…

#177

ergonomics is brutal but i’ve definitely but X in “location” as a blocker for Y. when i rack Elements is a like a big field between interface components.

of course i only know what’s going to be a problem after a playable patch is together

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#178

This is my latest 104hp portable setup, with bonus Boris pic.

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#179

ergonomics thing you might want to try: i flipped my w/s upside down and they feel far more playable - something about key presses with my index/middle/ring fingers and flicking the toggle with my thumb/index really opens it up for me.

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#180

ooooh, thanks for the tip! I can see that being more comfortable

#181

Ok pals, some suggestions would be welcome! I was planning on an 84hp setup, but a 104hp Intellijel case came up at a good price so I grabbed it. I have 17hp left in this sketch, what would you add? More VCAs? Fixed filter bank? Envelopes? Etc?

Example of current setup (below image minus VCS, A-198, A-136, and using A-118 instead of Noise Tools): https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZcevs7Zkbje9cXTUrk5AltEmyp2gjAMLwKV

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#182

@philmaguire You might consider a dual low-pass gate, for some percussive options, and yes more VCAs and envelopes would give a lot more flexibility. Envelopes can also be LFOs of course. I would also miss delay, something that can be CV’d for more fun, perhaps a Chronoblob or something small…

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#183

How’s the nerdseq working out? I have listed after one forever. But cannot justify the expense so settled on a deal for squarp Hermod as my brain.

#185

Or this 20hp Ladik mixer :sweat_smile:

http://ladik.ladik.eu/?page_id=2113

#187

@philmaguire i’m kind with @nutritionalzero - go with your orig idea and fill in the blanks with what occurs to you

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#188

feeling the 84 comment. I’ve had a 4u 104hp case with at least 20hp empty for over a year now. no hurry to fill it and have not allowed myself to ’explore the market’ like I did when I initially planned/filled it.

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#189

Leave it empty for a while until you know what you want/need, maybe make a blank with some random cardboard or whatever. Just my 2 cents, but if you’ve never used the modules before it’s likely you’ll find some new needs once you start playing.

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