#33

ahhh, that kind. fair enough! I was just tuning my Mangrove to my other synths earlier and found it remarkably simple, hence the question :+1:

#34

yes, thirds, fifths, sixths, etc., it is not the most stable oscillator, as I said because of the twisted formants.
I had a similar issue with the Verbos Complex, it sounded queasy and drifting.

#35

interesting! that hasn’t been my experience at all. to my ears, Mangrove stayed perfectly in tune over the course of the looper piece I recorded a month ago. granted, I’m usually not bothered by variations on the order of a few cents.

#36

Agree, not a problem on a few cents of pitch being off, desirable even.
Let me add, I am really trying to like having 2 Mangroves, I’ll give them a try for a while, modular is based on individual taste as we all know, nothing fits everyone. The biggest challenge I found in modular the past few years is finding the right combination of modules that blend together the best.

#37

It is worth the time and effort to calibrate/recalibrate! I had a similar experience, my mangrove drifted into queasy territory a few months after purchasing it, and recalibration made it much more pleasant to use with other oscs.

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#38

I’ve gone through some trouble with my pair of Mangroves, but I’m in good shape now. Here’s some of the wisdom I’ve collected on this forum:

  1. Attach them to your voltage source first and make sure that source isn’t outputting any voltage (set to 0v). The pitch jumps a little when the volt/octave is plugged in. This is a known ‘flaw’ that Trent has acknowledged.

  2. They drift a little bit, but are super stable after an hour, faster when the weather is warmer probably. You should be somewhat okay after about 10-15 minutes.

  3. If you find that the pitch doesn’t track as well as you’d like between octaves, you need to trim/calibrate, which can be a tricky process. I got some tips for this :

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#39

thanks, will try, I have the Mordax DATA - spectrum analyzer feature.

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#40

i’ve a pair of Just Friends and i feel good :slight_smile:
ahahahha…btw had mangrove and had the same feeling about paring it with others vco, i prefer a couple of STO + cold mac for example

but if i’ve to choose a complex now i’ll take Instruo CS-L

#41

I’ve also noticed @Jonny points with my Mangrove. After it’s been given an hour or so to warm up mine does seem to track well. The ‘pitch jump’ when plugging in V/8 really threw me for a while!

@weepwow If you’ve not checked it out yet, Plaits can do a lot of ‘complex’ osc stuff (wavefolding, FM etc.), and it’s rock solid tuning wise (joys of digital!).

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#42

Getting a better feel now for compatible tuning with the 2 Mangroves in my system (A-ok), with Sisters and Cold Mac, w/ (ordered Just Friends today) possibly getting a 2nd Sisters who knows. Overall very pleased at the prospect of creative sound ideas these great modules will be able to conjure up, I haven’t even had them for a month yet. (never enough time to spend). I am definitely on the mannequins bandwagon.

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#43

Awesome, glad you were able to get it sounding good!

#44

I don’t have two Mangroves so I can’t speak to using a pair a a complex oscillator, but that concept is kind of how I feel when I patch the Mangrove and Three Sisters together. I’ve been thinking about Sisters as a carrier oscillator more than a filter, Mangrove as the modulator, and it opens up a lot of interesting timbres. Waveshaping on the Mangrove can almost be considered an equivalent for wavefolding but with a different sonic flavor.

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#45

I think in the long run, I will be down to just one mangrove. Its hard to justify having 2 of anything except for basic utility modules – VCA’s, adsrs, mixers etc. It’s an experiment for now.
So much good variety available in eurorack to have 2 of the same VCO’s, speaking for myself.

#47

I can totally relate as someone who hesitantly just ordered a second Mangrove. I’ve vowed to keep my rack contained to a single case(6U 104hp), so it’s difficult to justify duplicates. However, the good people of this community have been pretty convincing so we’ll see how it goes.

#48

@analogue01 is making me want 3 Mangroves.

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#49

2X Mangrove + Instruo CS-L

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#50

I’m afraid to ask for an example…

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#51

ha! what did i do (other than post my modulargird)? :wink:

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#52

Get a Mangrove and a Three Sisters, which can be a lovely Filter or self-oscillate and give you some Cool Sounds too. There, no doubles, problem solved.

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#53

Three oscillators? Three Sisters? Yes.

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