one a day for a month, and you’ve got it sorted. :wink:

And part way through you’re likely to start to get a sense for the relationship between app documentation and app experience, which will start to guide you in terms of “how deeply should I test (if at all) a particular app?”

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i just parsed through all of the old apps i saved from using the 40h to the original 256…it’s been a long while since i’ve treaded in 256 waters, so much more to explore.

i’m really just excited about using apps within’ Live (e.g. re:mix, dj256, and the handful of apps that @elquinto ported over) since i’ve recently steered toward using Bitwig for my recording/mixing/arranging etc.

time to start diggin’ :crazy_face::exploding_head::hugs:

Ah, well, that significantly reduces the list.

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i remember using rewire with mlr, so maybe that’s still an option with the ones that aren’t ported to m4l.

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Can anyone get Bigwing to work anymore? I can’t connect to the Echonest website for some reason, and have never been able to get it functioning properly.

After checking out dj256 (a couple of you guys), what do you think so far??

i opened it up for a bit, but wasn’t able to mess around with it much. so you throw two audio files (two song preferably) and mix the a la dj style?

yes sir, you’ve got it. takes a minute to get the hang of it, but so much fun, and a great live performance tool.

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Does anyone know of any new apps for the 256 in development? I’m always looking for new ways to jazz up the live sets.

The newest ones I’m aware of are stretta’s gridlab max for live devices, linked above.

Just saw this, sorry—no, Bigwing does not work anymore, Echo Nest got acquired by Spotify and the EN Remix API that powered Bigwing was taken down a couple of years ago.

Making a version 2 that relies completely on local analysis, and also reads Ableton or Traktor beatgrid files, has been on my todo list for a while but hasn’t quite risen to the top yet. (Will probably have to change the name, I keep typing “Bitwing” by accident.)

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just to chime back in…these are the apps that i’ve culled it down to.

sequencers
arpshift
blinken-park
bloon
boiing
refmatrix
ricochet

mlr
mlr / mlrv2

m4l
re:mix
gridlab
ml(ive)r
grainfields
raptor

misc
64videofingers
angles
dj256_1.2
mirrorme
pages
quadrants

i tried using mlrv2, and while it seems like the most up to date version of mlr, it doesn’t seem to load correctly and i have issues when it comes to using samples with it. so far the best version of mlr is the re:mix, the max4live rendtion of mlr, but i’d like to not be tied to Live to use mlr. can anyone recommend a different version of mlr that doesn’t require m4l?

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Folks have had some success with mlrv2 under Max 5 runtime, but I hear it’s a pretty hit or miss thing for the right combo of hardware and software to align. Maybe try it without getting your hopes up too high. The reason for the old version of max is the extensive UI customization used by mlrv2. This used graphics nodes that were broken in later versions of Max. Probably better to try the old school versions of mlr.

I have to admit I have never thoroughly plumbed the depths of all the various mlr versions and variants people made over the years. If you did this I’d be very interested in your findings.

i’ve had a number of grids throughout the years starting in 2007 with a 40h, so i’ve used mlr in a number of ways throughout the years. after some quick testing, the mlr_2.27_cyst and _jmelnyk versions seem to be the most solid ones to choose from.

i really wish mlrv2 worked with Max 7 because it really does look the best with all of the large fonts etc.

if not mlrv2, then i wish there was at least a way to use re:mix without Live because it seems to be the most fully featured of them all.

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Greetings from Atlanta friends!

I have been using my monome 256 for a few years now and absolutely have fallen in love with it, which brings me to my question. Are there any folks out there developing/creating any new applications for the monome? I am looking for other ways to explore and use the device in a live setting, as I’m one of those whose skill set and understanding is quite basic so there’s only so much I can grasp within my live setup. Any recommendations, updates, and ideas are very much appreciated.

Big Love.

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Yes

https://monome.org/docs/app/

Have you tried most/all of these?

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there’s a lot of new stuff coming out now around the norns hardware for one - in terms of recent laptop stuff @stretta is still building out gridlab in m4l. I’m working on a few things in m4l currently as well but nothing is out yet. might be missing someone?

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ooh @josephbranciforte has been cooking up some stuff in pd

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I sure have. I have gotten a feel for most of those apps, spent a good bit of time with them, but haven’t dove too deep into all of them.

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Hi all!

Are there any reliable alternatives in M4L that would work with a 256 grid? I’m having a couple problems automating the recording of tracks in RE:MIX.

For one I would like to have 15 inputs, which I guess would be an easy change. I would like to be able to record a bunch of different instruments in quick succession and run them through an mlr like system. I would like to for example play a drum part in but be able to play separately with the different drum parts. Also whenever I automate paramaters in RE:MIX in Ableton the grid stops displaying.

Unfortunately RE:MIX can’t do these things. I saw an old app call Live Clip Chopper which claimed to apply mlr like chopping directly to Ableton clips which sounds exactly like what I want. I could not get my grid to talk to Live Clip Chopper however.

In my dream world I would also like to be able to transpose sections of the clips with a second grid 64.

Any suggestions on a alternative, solutions to those problems, or guidance on starting to build a new patch would be greatly appreciated.

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