A concern? Microsoft Acquires Github

this is making me a bit nervous, i am not a microsoft user/developer but golly they already have a visual basic toolkit ready for github. I find this really funny after 20 years wokring with open source and pleading with administrators and telling them that open source was the root of development that this giant now makes this move. They are trying to buy the open source community and they think a free repo will solve all their 3rd party issues? I don’t have enough information to make a “Flee!” panic but it’s not making me feel inclined to post stuff up there right now.

Thoughts?

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I was with friends and family when i saw this news trending on social media…and couldnt suppress an audible reaction.

With little knowledge of the deal i cant say why but the idea immediately has me dreading the inevitable changes

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I’m not sure I’d get worried about this.

MSFT has been making some very positive moves of late, and I’m more inclined to evaluate them on the merits of their current strategy and operations prowess than on their prior ones.

One of the great strengths of Github is its community - why would MSFT destroy the core competency of something it buys? If anything this is a signal of good things to come. IMO.

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well the first move is to offer a VB integration that’s why i feel weird but i am working through it and try ing to se advantages. But the advantages ultimately will benefit Windows and i am not trying to be a negative nelly [though i play one on TV]

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I agree. It’s something to watch for sure, but I’d be much more concerned if it were Facebook or Google - or even Amazon - that had acquired GitHub,.

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Personally I’m inclined to immediately look for an alternative. A lot of people are talking about GitLab - I wonder if anyone here has any experiences with it?

I’m not worried at all. In part because Microsoft is already a heavy user of github (so it’s not like they bought something they don’t understand), but also because if there ever is a problem it’ll be very easy to move…

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I’m not very worried, I may even be excited. I don’t think there’s a company who has done more for developers than Microsoft. Their developer tools and frameworks are still some of the best in the industry. Aren’t they the biggest contributor on Github? Both their own projects and contributing to others?

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I’ve been using Gitlab primarily for the past two years for iOS development. I really like it.

It’s really not very hard to move a git repository and there are many competitors. So, I figure keep doing what works for you until it doesn’t work any longer. I’d rather Microsoft be a member (or even supporter/funder) of the open source community than not be.

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all my current $JOB stuff is on gitlab. They’re not bad, but they do have stability issues that I never really experienced with github (or very rarely at least). See also https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-incident/

I see it as a good thing. The business wouldn’t be around forever alone. It was always going to end up being either shuttered or acquired one day and given MS current pushes for OSS, I’d see it as a good thing.

MS holds a lot of their own large projects there already and if MS changed GH for bad, I would bet that their own employees would probably cause a riot internally.

I assume that the initial spike of activity is just fear of change. There is no proof that they would fail GitHub yet. Until that happens, I would keep calm and carry on.

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A Thousand Times This:

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Like @smutek says I’d be way more freaked out if Google or Facebook bought GitHub. At least with Microsoft I feel like their business case for acquiring GitHub make sense and is generally aligned with where I want GitHub to be.

That isn’t to say Microsoft won’t screw things up, but it’s just git underneath it all so it’s not that hard to move!

Honestly I’d be more worried if I was a diehard Atom user. It’s hard to see the justification for it and VSCode to exist. And from what I gather VSCode is supposed the be the better product.

Google must be cursing their daft way of specifying dependencies in Go with URLs though.

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as an Atom user, this was my first concern.

@smutek @sam
what could be wrong with google or facebook in this context ?

i also see this as a positive move. microsoft has been doing a lot of things right lately. my only slight concern is if it would mean UI changes. i like github UI a lot, and my limited amount of time spent with TFS has been a painful experience (even when it’s running git).

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Personally, I see this as a negative thing. People suggest that the culture at Microsoft has changed, but the change towards supporting open source only seems to be because their previously strategy of trying to kill open source was a losing battle. You can point to them embracing open source, but of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

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I’m cool with this now
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/

Follow the money I suppose. Microsoft seems to have a pretty diverse set of income, but a large part of that is software and services (e.g. Azure, etc), for all their many many sins they’ve always been very developer focused.

Going by the “if you’re not paying for the product, you are the product” saying, I understand how I’m the product with Microsoft. Me writing software makes them money, GitHub helps me write software. That doesn’t make me a fan of the company (I run Linux on my desktop computer, but I also coded C# in Visual Studio for a very long time). I feel like I’ve gotten over the M$ == evil of the 1990s and 2000s.

Facebook and Google are in the advertising business, that’s where they make their money. Everything they do has to be viewed through the prism of them selling more ads. Google got so worried about their competitors controlling their ad delivery mechanism that they released their own browser and mobile phone OS.

So I’m always a bit worried when the two of them do things if I think it’s to do with them tracking me more, or trying to assert control over the internet. If either of them acquired GitHub I’d be worried why they did it.

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