For sure! I’ll dig it up tomorrow. If I remember correctly a couple of the patterns in MDD Snake don’t display quite right on the MFT lights, but most are fine.

@dansimco here’s some older versions of the patch I dug up. I had improved on these on my 2012 MBP, but it’s currently out of commision thanks to the usual GPU issues with those machines :frowning:

Some of the snake patterns don’t display properly in this version, but it isn’t too difficult to sort out if you’re familiar with Max.

Put the MDD__Snake_V3 patch on a MIDI track. Put the MDD__MFT_Snake_V3 patch on a different MIDI track, and set the MIDI To selector in that track to your MIDI FIghter Twister. You’ll also have to set the MIDI Channel selector to 2, otherwise it will send on channel one and won’t work properly (channel 1 sets the LED rings, channel 2 sets the indent indicator).

Oh yeah and you’ll have to MIDI learn the knobs for each page of Snake.

Hopefully I can find the time to repair these versions (or my MBP) and if so I’ll add them to this thread.

MDD___MFT_SNAKE_V3.amxd (189.5 KB) MDD___SNAKE_V3.amxd (1.8 MB)

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Would anybody be able to assist me in figuring out how to route audio between inputs and outputs of my audio interface without monitoring them? I want to get audio through Ableton (or from it) in to my norns (for Cheat Codes) and back without causing feedback.

One example; OP-1 in to Ableton for some filtering, in to Cheat Codes, but only hear the Cheat Codes wet audio on my master track so I don’t get feedback.

I’m happy to try to! I’ll get back to you later. What interface are you using (just out of interest)?

EDIT: While thinking about this between morning coffees I realised that I need to know now many I/O your interface has.

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I have a Komplete Audio 6 mk2, while it claims to be 6 ins and outs, minus the S/pdif ports it’s really 4 mono ins and 4 mono outs…

Here is an example of a build I did that… didn’t go great. I feel like I’m making some REALLY simple in to something more difficult. I know I’m going to face palm once all is said and done… which makes it all the more embarrassing to ask!!

Here’s a screen shot of something that generated Feedback when I turned on the monitoring:

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Happend to me sooo many times. The great thing about Ableton is that there are often many approaches to a specific problem/solution.

Here is mine:

Place the external audio plugin after the fx chain of choice. “Audio to” goes to Norns and “audio from” comes from Norns. If you turn monitor all the way down on Norns, you’ll only have the “wet” signal coming back to Ableton.

Does this make sense or what you were looking for?

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Does Norns IN still register sound with the monitor all the way down…? I’m in Los Angeles and am up every three hours because I’m on baby duty tonight so I’m going to give this a shot in about 5 or 6 hours when at my desk. Thanks for this! I’ve never used the Ext. Audio tool before.

Would this work equally well with a few different instances? So, having two or three audio tracks together, each with a similar setup?

Yes it does. Monitor level regulates how much of the IN signal is passed on to OUT directly (AFAIK).

Just coming from baby duty… now back to work. Enjoy the little one :slight_smile:

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I looked around but couldn’t find it — was CV Tools ever broken off into its own thread? If it has, I’ll move this question over there. If not, here goes…

Is it possible to send a Run/Stop from CV Tools to control modules like Pam’s New Workout? I would think that there is, but I can’t seem to find it. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you.

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Try:

Max4Live > MaxAudioEffect > CV Clock Out

Set the 'Transport" to output whereever you want, and click the button at the bottom right to “Gate” instead of “Trigger”.

Also keep in mind that for things like clock or start/stop, since they are just gate / trigger signals you can also use generic midi clips with the outputs routed to the appropriate place (ie a clock is just a bunch of gates at whatever tempo or pulses per quarter note a given module is expecting)

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Oh, I didn’t realize that transport was the thing I was looking for. It was there all along. I’ve been using it to clock my system, never realizing what the second half of the plugin does. Jeez.

Thank you very much, I appreciate the help.

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I just wanted to mention that the lockdown sale that Ableton is having (30% off software) ends tomorrow.

I actually got an upgrade license from lite to suite (I got the lite version for free with a midi controller) on thomann for the equivalent of about $330. I would probably never have bought the full version, so for people like me this might be worth it…

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I just did exactly this, I’m moving away from Apple and Logic so it was too good to pass up :slight_smile:

Just upgraded to Live 10 too. Very good deal. Lots of nice stuff in the new version :+1:t2:

Not sure if there is a separate cv tools thread (at least I couldn’t find one), but Im wondering if its possible to sequence midi instruments in Ableton with modules (Marbles for example)? I’ve just received my es-9 and wanted to experiment with this, but it seems cv-midi is not possible?

I think you’re correct because the ‘CV In’ maps the CV to a parameter in live, but not a MIDI pitch / gate. You could probably get around this by using a simple max4live device that sends out a midi note when it’s parameter is changed, then map the CV in value to that parameter. I believe Silent Way alternatively has a CV to MIDI module.

Elphnt shows some alternative uses of Ableton delays in this video. I especially liked the creative looping possibilities with Echo.

His videos are among the best resources for learning Ableton. I find they are centered on musical approaches and add just the right amount of technical stuff. At first I couldn’t understand half of the technical things but I would leave having learned something and being able to use it. Now I appreciate the technical stuff and if I want to go deeper I can do it on my own.

On his website he has some nice resources for Ableton, from sample packs and effects racks to m4l devices. The effects racks are nice to look into and learn how things are accomplished, I make some heavy use of the spring reverb and the tape machine.

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yes, he is hands down one of the best ableton guides on yt. in case you haven’t seen it i found this video very interesting especially the generative strategies bit.

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The new echo in ableton 10 is great. It also makes a gnarly drone synth if you turn the feedback up to 150% and play a short sound through it with a really fast delay time. Mess with the reverb, filters, modulation… endless fun.

I’m feeling happier than ever with stock ableton plugs and like theres much less of a need for 3rd party stuff now.

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I agree with this, I only use a couple of plugins on top of the stock but just because I have them. Valhalla reverbs, Diva and Soundtoys Little Plate. I’ve been tempted by FabFilter stuff for a while, but I really don’t need it.
One advantage that is no longer such, is that Ableton’s stock devices used to be super light on CPU compared to plugins. The new devices and Ableton 10 in general are quite CPU-intensive however, at least for my 2012 MacBook Pro. I have 16gb RAM and an SSD, but the CPU (i5 3210m) is quite behind. So, any upgrade should be focused on changing computer. For the time being I’ll keep freezing and flattening.

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