I also have a UC4, which does have a Live mode, which works as expected (at least on Live9). I.e. you don’t have to map anything, it’s all pre-mapped. You just have to install the files that come with it. It does lack the LEDs the SC4 has, and of course it’s not a dedicated device like the FT3.
I have times where I try to use it with live, but always end up using the mouse. There’s always going to be soo much that is not mapped, or not easily reachable, on the controller, so you keep bouncing back and forth between it and the mouse anyway.
This is for ā€œsudio useā€, for live stuff it’s a different thing, because there you set things up to work in a very specific way, and you don’t want to touch a mouse, at least I don’t.
For the latter I can see something like the UC4 to work fine. I would likely restrict everything to 8 tracks (or gropups) max, keep the UC4 for just track levels and mutes and perhaps add a second controller to control effects/sends and other parameters that need to be at reach.
Mapping these controllers to something is very quick&easy. You just enter MIDI mapping mode on live and turn a knob, push a button or move a fader. That’s it.
The tricky thing for me is then to remember what I had mapped, but that’s another topic.

this whole conversation has convinced me that there’s room for a smaller push-like device that’s less focused on performance and instrument control, but has fleshed out transport controls.

like a smaller oled, half the knobs, expanded transport (and expanded audio interface capability). seems like it could be really really useful.

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Is there any interest in a thread dedicated to the Ableton Push?

I’m still trying to get cozy with mine…

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Ohhh does it work (or can we adapt it to work) with an arc4? I’d love to turn Ableton into a musique concrete battlestation with the arc and grid being used for tape controls and routing.

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@shellfritsch / @stripes / anyone else: it’s kind of a boring alternative, but I used a Korg nanoKontrol 2 with Ableton for awhile and was pretty happy with it. very inexpensive and compact. maybe an option would be combining that with a little DIY box for of the stuff you want that it can’t do, tho that’s less graceful

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Plus you can use it to control Teletype :slight_smile:

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Sadly, I haven’t been able to get the script to work in Live 10 but the OP-1 used to work nicely as a transport control for Live. . .
https://teenage.engineering/guides/op-1/song-rendering-and-connectivity

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Happy to report that Touchable is now connecting again after they updated the iOS app and Mac server!

It’s really very useful if you use Live and have iOS devices. There is also a Windows/Android version but I can’t speak to that…

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Yeah I was really happy to see the update go out this week. I had been hurting with it not connecting for a while now.

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The new Made in Ableton Live series is quite good. Even if a featured artist’s music wasn’t something I would normally listen to, I still learned a few useful things about Live from them.

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Agreed. Also confirms that everyone uses Valhalla plugins on everything.

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Abletons stock reverb is probably its weakest point. They really should commission a design from Valhalla. I do like the feedback reverb on echo though, it’s pretty nice

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I figured out a script that automaps the MFT to ableton plugins. Wow, so damn cool. So now when I open an EQ or auto filter, I dont have to touch a mouse to make changes. Exactly what I wanted.

I have a question that maybe anyone can answer who maps their 3rd party plugins to hardware in ableton,

What I’d love to do is load up a synth like DIVA for example. And then map about 8 parameters to my Midi fighter The question I have, what is the best way to save these mappings so every time I load the synth up, I can just touch the knobs and get to work?

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Did you use the DJTT script or create your own?

I used a DJTT script. I’m not savvy enough to create my own…lol!

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You can put the vst into the thing that has macros (don’t remember the correct nomenclature). Then the 8 mapped parameters are mapped to the macros and that whole ā€œbundleā€ can be saved

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Ok great, thats what I thought. That’s going to be awesome then. Thank you.

Yes, and everybody seems to choose the Valhalla VintageVerb on the 80s setting. I also found it interesting that so many are using the XLN RC-20 plug-in (retro color). I might have to take it for a trial run.

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So this may be a little weird but…

I’ve had a private Google group for several years that grew out of my teaching Music Technology in the Marketplace at Berklee. It’s called the LiveHive.

It started as a way to share Ableton related stuff but very quickly morphed into just anything cool, interesting, creative about any kind of art… Feature creep…

Anyway, I’ve recently started an offshoot called LiveHive Summer Camp, which is very specifically Ableton focused and intended to be mostly an excuse for occasional Zoom hangouts to share ideas, explore tips, and just enjoy spending some time with nice folks with a common interest… Some of us are longtime Ableton users and some are very new to it… At this point most are personal friends I know irl, but not all. It’s spontaneous, not a regularly scheduled thing at this point, but I hope it could become more so…

I’m posting this here for two reasons. First to invite lines folks to join if interested. Drop me a message…

Second to float the idea of some kind of Lines version of a real-time video conferencing hangout(s), topically based or otherwise…

The technology is readily available, it could be nice…

Does that appeal?

Edit: I’m located near Boston so east coast time for my Zoom hangouts, usually evenings from about 7:30 to 9…

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great idea. I still live working with ableton live, but I donā€˜t like to hang out anymore at the ableton forum. the lines community is more inspiring for my tastes.

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