#690

Can Ableton do probability and/or condition based sequencing?

This video captures what I find really attractive about the Elektron workflow but I feel certain that it should be possible within Live (if not natively, then surely with M4L).

Apologies for my ignorance. I’m on the verge of purchasing Suite (and the lack of this won’t be a deal-breaker by any means) so I’m not especially well-versed in what M4L can do.

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#691

Yes, Live 11 does that natively :slight_smile: you can automate/draw the probability. As far as I know, not the trig conditions as in the Elektron boxes (1:4, 1:2 etc) but you can probably mimic that with the follow actions using multiple clips. Live 11 will be available next year. It is currently in public beta.

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#692

Without needing to go to 11, there are also lots of M4L devices that can create probability and condition based patterns AND live clips (audio and midi) have all kinds of follow actions (next, first, random, probability) that can create complex/randomized phrases if you learn how to work with them).

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#693

Ah, that’s a great and incredibly quick way of implementing it! Brilliant!

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#694

I assumed that would be the case but it’s very nice to have it confirmed. Working on the very basic logic that Live has vastly more computing power upon which to draw than a Digitakt (for example) my theory was that it could potentially do anything that a Digitakt can do (aside from be a sleek, stylish, portable metal box that gives you respite from staring at a monitor, of course!)

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#695

I’m looking to try to replicate many of the roles my Octatrack plays in my setup within Ableton Live for a smaller travel rig for flying. On the Octatrack there’s a feature called “reload part” which immediately resets almost all parameters back to a predefined starting position. This allows you to go wild with changing parameters but have a place to fall back on if it gets out of control - you don’t have to remember what you’ve changed to get it back to “default”.

Are there any good ways to replicate this in live? I’m basically just processing the modular and using Live for FX and maybe looping via the looper device. The only thing i can think of is mapping a knob to a chain selector which selects one of numerous identical FX racks. Any other ways to accomplish this reset functionality?

#696

In Live 11 you will have a feature in every instrument rack to take snapshot of settings. This means that you can have an initial setting saved and then recall it by clicking on the preset (you could of course midi-map this button). You can then have 16 parameters (macros) that you can tweak and recall.
Shown here:

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#697

Basically I see many people here asking for Live to cover Elektron features and the answer is : while it was already doable with m4l plugins before, Live 11 takes a LOT of cues from the Elektron workflow and add them beautifully and naturally into the native Live workflow.

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#698

Does anyone know if it is possible to separate midi Chanel on Ableton from the project tempo?

Meaning having a dedicated tempo parameter for a specific midi track.

Is there a M4Live device that could do this? I don’t know max but I could really use something like this.

Thanks in advance.

#699

you can’t separate a midi channel from the project tempo, no.
two possible workarounds:

  • select all notes in a midi clip and use the right most midi stretch marker (just beneath the scrub area where warp markers in audio clips appear), and stretch the clip to a tempo you want. then adjust the clip length accordingly. use a bpm/beat calculator if needed.
  • change the project bpm to the tempo you want for the midi clip, freeze/bounce that track to audio, change the tempo back and work with the audio file unwarped.
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#700

Thanks. I’ve used the first one but it’s not mappable so it’s kinda of a pain to use in a live setting. Is there anyway to map it?

#701

you could use the arpeggiator in free running mode perhaps? not idea if that’s a useable solution for the scenario you’re working in, but perhaps.

edit: there’s a free max for live arpeggiator that’s a bit more advanced than the stock arpeggiator, that might be better suited for the task. It lets you set tempo in bpm, free from the project tempo.

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#702

PERFECT!! This is it! ty ty ty

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#703

What’s the name of that free M4L arpeggiator?

#704

Well, after a multi-year hiatus I’ve repurchased Live and am getting back into ITB production… it’s funny how familiar it all feels, despite skipping multiple versions. Totally forgot that metronome on/off was assigned to the ~ by default, though :rofl:

Anyway, no purpose to this other than to say I can’t wait to dig back in and looking forward to everything 11 has to offer…

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#705

its the one in this pack: https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/max-live-essentials/#?

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#706

Could anyone tell me how i can find out if any particular third party plugin is causing Ableton to crash without going through each one individually and removing them? Is it possible that plugins that aren’t even open in a session could cause a crash? I really dont know where to begin with this. I’m not crashing consistently but often enough for it to be a problem. I’m finding this very difficult to troubleshoot on my own.

#707

Are you on the Beta 11 or the 10 version? The beta is quite crashy (Ableton betas usually are more stable, I think they broke a lot of things with 11 to add stuff like MPE). The Ableton 11 cpu meter could help pinpoint problems though.

What do you mean by not open? If a plugin is dropped on a track on your session consider it open wether its UI window is displayed or not.

#708

Version 10.1.30

I mean that a plugin is in the Component or VST folder and Ableton is recognizing it but I do not have it inserted on a track. Could plugins that are merely installed cause crashes or would then need to be inserted on a track?

#709

No, I have never heard of a plugin causing a crash for being scanned by Ableton on launch, it has to be in the session to cause problems. Ableton isn’t the best DAW to pinpoint or handle crashing plugins (although it’s usually pretty stable but you can never control every possible outcome).

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