I’ve been waiting for that one for soooo long, also lots of obvious little improvements that everyone have been waiting for soooo long, pretty nice .x update overall.

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Just dropping a note that I got the ableton CV tools up and running last night (using just the outs from a motu Ultralite and some TRS to TS cables) and it worked amazingly well, amazingly quickly. Everything was clocking together really nicely. I’d been keeping my modular totally separate from ableton/computer stuff but I may have to really rethink that.
Also, hello to this forum (longtime lurker).

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are you using the beta versions or did they release the final?

This might have just sold me on upgrading

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Final was released on Tuesday

I played with the beta and found CV tools to be fun. I thought voice calibration was much more straight forward than with the Silent Way suite.

I’ve been having stability issues with Ableton on my 15" 2015 MacBook Pro running Mojave. I installed 10.1 yesterday and after 3 back to back crashes and 2 crash report submissions, I listed my Suite license for sale.

I know they’re working on updating the application. I think the real issue for me is that I’ve been using Ableton almost exclusively since I bought version 1.5 in 2003 and I think I’m about sick to death of it and just want a change.

Also, I don’t have formal music training so I sort of “grew up” in my musical life noodling about in session view (which was revolutionary in 2003) and, as a result have pretty much avoided linear arrangement like the plague. As a result I also have very few finished pieces of music from my 14 years with Ableton - but many, many, loops constructed in Session view.

Also, why do my instruments have to be smooshed down and constrained to fit into the bottom 1/8th sliver of my screen? Wavetable’s expandable interface was hugely refreshing for me and I hope they continue to follow that route. I have some cognitive issues and as I grow older I find small interfaces less and less tolerable. It’s not that I can’t see or read the words, it’s more like I can’t process the information properly from the interface.

I don’t mean to say it’s all bad, at the end of the day Ableton is still a freaking amazing piece of software. For me though, these days I have a small modular system, some CV tools, and a handful of “tiny instruments” (Volcas, Meblip, etc.) and controllers that bring me much happiness. I’m looking to explore recording and linear arrangement more and I just don’t need or use mush of what Ableton has to offer.

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Feels weird and cool modulating a vst wavetable position using Rene clocked to the same sequence

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Clocking Ableton with Wogglebug as master is fun as well.

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where can the final version be downloaded? i’ve only seen it on centercode.

edit: referring specifically to the cv tools pack, not 10.1

Only on centercode, as cvtools is still in beta

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ah, thanks. thought i was going crazy for a minute.

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just pinging the thread to say the cv tools are surprisingly easy to use and effective, the cv pitch calibration was effortless. highly recommend. going to change so much about my workflow.

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What are you using to bring the clock into Ableton? ES-6?

Yep, ES6 with the CV Tools clock input.

I haven’t tested this yet, but I assumed I needed a DC coupled interface to use CV tools…which is mostly true, except you can do some things (like clocking) with AC coupled interfaces. Again, I haven’t tried myself, but - from the docs:

I do not have a DC-coupled interface. Can I still use CV Tools?

Yes, even if you are not a modular user, there are interesting things to get out of CV Tools!

  • The Rotating Rhythm Generator outputs MIDI, and works great with Drum Racks in Live.
  • CV Clock / CV Clock Out / CV Triggers all work without DC-coupled interfaces, since binary events do not generally require exact voltage values.
  • The CV In device has a “Pitch” mode, which converts an oscillator’s pitch to CV in real-time (without the use of a DC-coupled input).
  • If you have a Eurorack MIDI interface, you can achieve similar results by using Live’s External Instrument device.
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I’ve got the ES-3 for CV out and I’ve used my regular AC coupled outputs for sending gate out (I can confirm the AC coupled outs work great for outputting clock, no problems there) but it seems I need to test the Clock In as well. I’d love to clock Ableton with the modular but I don’t really want to get an ES-6 since I don’t have space for it.

There’s a 25% on almost everything on Ableton’s website now, guess I’ll finally upgrade to 10!

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Thanks for the heads up!! Finally got myself a copy of 10 standard…

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Can’t believe I missed this. As a Wacom user it’s always done my head in, especially as M4L worked fine.

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Tested - both cv clock in and out work… however, the k-mix is really a pain to configure for clock usage. So, it works, but I really don’t like it. The amount of config is painful, specifically because of the way k-mix works in double duty as soundboard & usb interface. edit: got it to work today using a second usb sound card in aggregate mode via asio4all (i’m on windows). works really well!

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