#386

Thanks for that. I will browse for those things now. I’ve not used Max beyond prebuilt things in Max4Live so the building blocks for things are all unknown to me
thanks gain everyone

#387

Hey. thanks again for the tip on helmholtz. mapping it to Ableton’s CV Utility sounds easy but have had no luck getting it anywhere near 1:1 so that it can mirror the pitch in helmholtz out of a CV output into a VCO. have you tried it or have any pointers? with all the various % scales and offsets etc in the CV Utility, it makes it hard to track pitch when you want to tune one source to another…
any pointers would be hugely appreciated.

#388

I bought stickers for a spare keyboard a few years ago (Live 9). Turned out I never used it, and now it’s obsolete. For me it was easier to learn a few new shortcuts every week. After all I don’t want to read my keyboard, I want to look on the screen. Otherwise I might as well use the mouse/pad.

Your mileage might vary etc.

(I still need to clean that keyboard…)

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#389

I haven’t tested the output of the setup that I suggested, just tested that the mapping worked within ableton. I’ll give it a try later today and report back. What hardware are you using to send cv from the computer to your modular?

If you are wanting to follow pitch and send quantized notes it might be easier to use a pitch follower that outputs midi notes and then convert midi to cv. I usually use Jam Origin’s Midi Guitar 2 plugin for the pitch following and then the Expert Sleepers Silent Way plugins to convert Midi to CV to send the signal out to ES-3 module. I’m pretty sure that work flow could be made in M4L devices.

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#390

I tried to figure out how to convert pitch to midi yesterday and kind of hit a wall.

I did find a m4l device called Pitch Tracker, but couldn’t crack the problem of getting it to output midi… But I was so tired I kept falling asleep and waking up not quite remembering what I was doing or why… Does that happen to others or am I going insane?!?

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#391

I am using an ‘expert sleepers’ module to do the CV sending from the Mac to the Modular.
that is working fine. I am able to use other parts of Ableton’s CV tools Max4live stuff without any issues. for example, i can use the CV instrument and send piano roll or sequenced notes perfectly in tune without any problem.
i can use the CV LFO to send an LFO CV signal to the modular perfectly too.

the issue is translating the incoming pitch data, which that Helmholtz is displaying correctly, so, helmholtz would say, for example “C3”… but i can’t map that onto any CV output thing within Ableton to get a usable result.

i spent an hour or so attempting to use the “CV Utility” module but all the results i got were far from useful.

the issue seems to be fine tuning the various parameters in that CV utility to take the incoming data from helmholtz and output that in the correct scale for it to map onto the pitch 1:1

and after spending an hour or so with it, and failing, i’m looking for a better solution (than that CV Utility) as i require the pitch to be fully accurate …

i can’t seem to find any documentation on ableton’s CV utilities / tools either…

thanks again for the help

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#392

Please let us know what you discover!

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#393

My CV Utility idea wasn’t well thought out. I messed around with the Pitch Tracker device that @eblomquist mentioned as well as REALTIME audio midi converter. With both I got the pitch analysis working but couldn’t get the analysis device to communicate with the midi output device. Does anyone know if the behavior of Send and Receive objects in max for live changed from Ableton 9 to 10?

I came up with a working solution. It’s not graceful but it works. I changed one connection in the Helmholtz device so that when you use the map function you are mapping the midi note number. I mapped the note number to the JAZZ ME device to create midi notes and then sent the midi notes to CV Instrument to control my modular via ES-3.

link for JAZZ ME

And the altered Helmholtz device.
helmholtz_midiout.amxd (4.6 MB)

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#394

Well. the Helmholtz seems to do 50% of the problem quite well. the pitch reading that is… as its not quantized to midi notes, but Hz frequency which i want… the last remaining challenge is how to translate that to 1 Volt per octave Control Voltage…

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#395

Hey all I get that these CV tools and Helmholtz stuff is in the context of live 10 but it feels really offtopic / specific-nichey. Could we maybe split those off into a separate M4L convo?

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#396

Seconded once again, it feels like it’s something people really need informations for and it’s starting to vampirize a general thread with a very specific and unique set of concerns, gear, and basically inquiries revolving just around CV tools. So a CV tools thread would seem logical to me at this point.

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#397

Hello good people, I’m hoping you can help me. I’m using Ableton 10 Lite with my Digitakt via Overbridge and I’m having a problem. If I have MIDI channel input set to “All Ins” in Ableton, no matter what MIDI channel I’m playing into it plays sample channel 1. Likewise if I switch the input specifically to the controller. If I set the output in Ableton to a specific channel output it will just not play anything unless I pick that same channel number… Then it plays sample 1. Same result if I record midi and play back.

I did a quick test with seq24 and send midi to all 16 channels and it worked the way I would expect. I couldn’t hear but I could see each sample light up with it’s corresponding MIDI channel. Based on that I can only guess that I’m not setting something up correctly in Ableton. Or I did something dumb in Ableton at some point and I can’t figure out how to reverse it.

I’ve been having a lot of fun with Overbridge otherwise! I’d like to be able to control all the samples via MIDI!

#398

Anyone know how much voltage can be sent with CV tools?

#399

Does anyone know of an analog style (rotary encoder map-able) step sequencer M4L device or vst that I can use in Live 10 with a Push 2 or Launch Control XL?

This is perfect in concept, but the graphics don’t display correctly in Live 10:

http://mk16.kapetan.net/

#400

Have you tried MDD Snake?

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/4771/mdd-snake

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#401

I think this will be perfect. Thanks!

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#402

Cool! This one is a lot of fun. I had been working on a Rene clone but gave up when I found this because it’s just so well done.

#403

I imagine this is more a function of your soundcard than anything else.

#404

Realizing that my initial post is pretty vague.

Trying to use a midi expression pedal with CV tools to send CV. I have seen some foot control modules that can send up to 9V, which is what i would like to try to get out of CV tools. Essentially trying to replicate what floating points did with his current live set, and trying to find a way to make this happen through CV tools instead of taking up the room on my rack.

Probably still dependent on the interface, but wasn’t sure if anyone knew if there were any limits on what could be sent.

#405

IIRC on my analog rytm you have to trigger lower octaves to play samples individually, have you tried playing octaves 0 and -1 ?