#426

I just did exactly this, I’m moving away from Apple and Logic so it was too good to pass up :slight_smile:

#427

Just upgraded to Live 10 too. Very good deal. Lots of nice stuff in the new version :+1:t2:

#428

Not sure if there is a separate cv tools thread (at least I couldn’t find one), but Im wondering if its possible to sequence midi instruments in Ableton with modules (Marbles for example)? I’ve just received my es-9 and wanted to experiment with this, but it seems cv-midi is not possible?

#429

I think you’re correct because the ‘CV In’ maps the CV to a parameter in live, but not a MIDI pitch / gate. You could probably get around this by using a simple max4live device that sends out a midi note when it’s parameter is changed, then map the CV in value to that parameter. I believe Silent Way alternatively has a CV to MIDI module.

#430

Elphnt shows some alternative uses of Ableton delays in this video. I especially liked the creative looping possibilities with Echo.

His videos are among the best resources for learning Ableton. I find they are centered on musical approaches and add just the right amount of technical stuff. At first I couldn’t understand half of the technical things but I would leave having learned something and being able to use it. Now I appreciate the technical stuff and if I want to go deeper I can do it on my own.

On his website he has some nice resources for Ableton, from sample packs and effects racks to m4l devices. The effects racks are nice to look into and learn how things are accomplished, I make some heavy use of the spring reverb and the tape machine.

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#431

yes, he is hands down one of the best ableton guides on yt. in case you haven’t seen it i found this video very interesting especially the generative strategies bit.

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#432

The new echo in ableton 10 is great. It also makes a gnarly drone synth if you turn the feedback up to 150% and play a short sound through it with a really fast delay time. Mess with the reverb, filters, modulation… endless fun.

I’m feeling happier than ever with stock ableton plugs and like theres much less of a need for 3rd party stuff now.

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#433

I agree with this, I only use a couple of plugins on top of the stock but just because I have them. Valhalla reverbs, Diva and Soundtoys Little Plate. I’ve been tempted by FabFilter stuff for a while, but I really don’t need it.
One advantage that is no longer such, is that Ableton’s stock devices used to be super light on CPU compared to plugins. The new devices and Ableton 10 in general are quite CPU-intensive however, at least for my 2012 MacBook Pro. I have 16gb RAM and an SSD, but the CPU (i5 3210m) is quite behind. So, any upgrade should be focused on changing computer. For the time being I’ll keep freezing and flattening.

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#434

LOVE the stock Ableton echo. My new challenge is to not use it on every single track I make.

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#435

same here! I get carried away with putting a bit too much of its reverb on everything though! It muddies up a mix really quickly

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#436

this is very handy, someone built a M4L device that runs spleeter on any audio you’ve highlighted in ableton. for those unfamiliar, spleeter is an open source tool that using some form of magic to separate songs into vocal,drums,bass,‘other’ stems. if you have only gotten into sampling recently i would describe it as “not perfect”, but if you are familiar with the issues in trying to do separation at all i would describe it as ‘actually fucking crazy’. i remember when this was considered to be impossible, when everyone started trying to use phase inverted instrumentals to do it, and feeling like a genius for being able to get better results than that via spending hours manually painting out the instrumental in izotope RX (sincerely, the joke was on me). so getting equivalent or better results in like a minute now puts me very much on the “is this actually magic?!”

i first encountered it via melody.ml which is a great way to try it out but a)is limited to MP3s and b)only lets you try a couple of songs for free. have not noticed any quality difference between mp3 separation and wav, but seems like it can’t hurt?

the set up is more of a pain to do than any other M4L device, but to be honest i have been trying off and on to build it as a standalone app and i never had much luck with it. following the github instructions for this version actually had me up and running in like 20,30 minutes.

it requires you to install another app, docker. makes me wonder what other things i could potentially be using it for.

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#437

Does anything interesting happen if you misuse it on material without those elements? In a more abstract way…

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#438

the artifacts that come out are not “musical”–they sound like encoding artifacts–but they are definitely interesting! for my taste would need further processing but makes me want to try something like bouncing your own track, running it through this, recombining the stems and bouncing that version of the track, etc etc to see what comes out that could be mixed back in as a detail element

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#439

I’m using follow actions in Ableton but want to play the full length of an audio clip before moving onto the next one. You have to specify a bar/beat length for the clip to play currently. I want it to be independent of the DAW tempo.

Maybe there is a M4L device which does this kind of thing, or plays files from a specified folder?

#440

I just tried this and was surprised that setting clips to trigger and turning off quantization and looping didn’t do the trick. What is the use case? Performance I assume?

#441

Yea I was hoping that would do the trick but I think Abletons roots are in loops.

I’m thinking more for writing material, seeing it like splicing tape together. Having combinations of very short snippets, impacts and swells in a concrete kind of way.

I thought it would have been a nice way to have streams of interchangeable splices running either in sequence or some randomly. I guess it’s ultimately a workflow thing.

I like being ‘off grid’ too

#442

Have you tried Scenery? It may do what you want.

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#443

follow scene by isotonik might do what you want. i’m not sure bc i dont own it but it seems designed to expand the usability of follow actions for backing tracks/ambience

#444

I used this strategy for one of my pieces. The official “release” was actually just the Ableton Live set since I wanted it to be an endless piece. You can download it here. Might inspire you: https://nor.the-rn.info/2014/07/28/generative/

(For this I actually just leaned into the fact that Live wants to quantize stuff. The breakthrough was adding empty clips.)

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#445

Yes I have Scenery, it works great for long slow samples but I’ve found it gets stuck on samples if they are very short. It’s been designed as an ambient generator rather than how I’m trying to use it currently