Touchable suddenly stopped connecting with Ableton after I updated it … no response from the developer yet… fingers crossed…

Did you update the TouchAblePro server applet as well? I had a devil of a time getting the updated versions to connect until just this afternoon. The iPad app was connecting, but the Windows store version took even longer for the update to show up. Now it’s back in business…

yeah! the LV3 looks fun too. does your LV2 still work with ableton 10?

I updated both

Everything should be working…

I’m having one of those “is my head screwed on straight?” moments…

yeah it’s just midi so i can map it to whatever :slight_smile:

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Sent you a DM to compare setup notes in case it’s useful.

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There’s this local company that makes some nice controllers. Some of their new ones are desgined for use with Live, but they also make custom controllers. I’m certain they ship abroad as a friend of mine ordered one from the States.

I have an older version, pretty basic but rock solid. It’s built in aluminium and wood. Not sure about the newer ones.

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unbelievably cool. Went to their site and seems like still in beta for v2 – I wonder if possible to get the first edition – i’d snag one of the ones with a joystick in an instant!

anyone here used an elgato stream deck with live? bit pricey, but looks like a nice way to add some real buttons in a pretty small form factor. i like that you can customize the icons. could see this making a cool transport controller.

Stream Decks go on discount often enough it’s worth waiting for. I put together a layout with some +/- nudges and rarely-used commands but honestly I don’t use it for Ableton as often as I thought I might. It’s nice to have as a flexible macro pad on the desk.

The actual Killer App for the Stream Deck is Bitfocus Companion. In addition to speaking plain OSC, it integrates with a lot of production gear (major lighting consoles, video switchers and media servers, projectors, QLab, some sound boards even). There’s even a Raspberry Pi 4 image that Is… serviceable for limited situations.

Yes, it looks like they’ve been making some changes to their site and it’s not fully running. But they used to have a webpage where you could design your own controller and they would reply with a quote. You should contact them on Instagram.

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When I read your first request, I thought of the Contour Shuttle Pro!

I have one in the closet somewhere. I had it set up and rocking with Logic Pro (probably 8?!) at some point.

I’ve just recently bought Final Cut, I should bring it back out.

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this looks very very nice

SC4s are available again http://www.faderfox.de/sc4.html I use one for so many things. I have a UC4 too (which I broke travelling) but unexpectedly always ended up using the SC4. It’s because of the lights on the encoders letting you know the value, so it’s a much more useable paged controller. I even map the encoder push buttons to midi functions and use my feet when using guitar.

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I also have a UC4, which does have a Live mode, which works as expected (at least on Live9). I.e. you don’t have to map anything, it’s all pre-mapped. You just have to install the files that come with it. It does lack the LEDs the SC4 has, and of course it’s not a dedicated device like the FT3.
I have times where I try to use it with live, but always end up using the mouse. There’s always going to be soo much that is not mapped, or not easily reachable, on the controller, so you keep bouncing back and forth between it and the mouse anyway.
This is for “sudio use”, for live stuff it’s a different thing, because there you set things up to work in a very specific way, and you don’t want to touch a mouse, at least I don’t.
For the latter I can see something like the UC4 to work fine. I would likely restrict everything to 8 tracks (or gropups) max, keep the UC4 for just track levels and mutes and perhaps add a second controller to control effects/sends and other parameters that need to be at reach.
Mapping these controllers to something is very quick&easy. You just enter MIDI mapping mode on live and turn a knob, push a button or move a fader. That’s it.
The tricky thing for me is then to remember what I had mapped, but that’s another topic.

this whole conversation has convinced me that there’s room for a smaller push-like device that’s less focused on performance and instrument control, but has fleshed out transport controls.

like a smaller oled, half the knobs, expanded transport (and expanded audio interface capability). seems like it could be really really useful.

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Is there any interest in a thread dedicated to the Ableton Push?

I’m still trying to get cozy with mine…

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Ohhh does it work (or can we adapt it to work) with an arc4? I’d love to turn Ableton into a musique concrete battlestation with the arc and grid being used for tape controls and routing.

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@shellfritsch / @stripes / anyone else: it’s kind of a boring alternative, but I used a Korg nanoKontrol 2 with Ableton for awhile and was pretty happy with it. very inexpensive and compact. maybe an option would be combining that with a little DIY box for of the stuff you want that it can’t do, tho that’s less graceful

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Plus you can use it to control Teletype :slight_smile:

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