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Using legato mode with beats is useful too - turn off quantisation and jam, switching between variations of beats as you feel it, rather than quantised to the bar

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Alternately to playing it out live, when writing in the studio, I sketch things out in Sessions, and then I find it faster to use either Ctrl+C, TAB, and Ctrl+V to cut & paste clips from Session to Arrangement view, clips that loop you can drag in arrangement view to the # of bars you want… or you can use “View->Second Window” with two screens, or sized next to each other on a wide screen, and drag and drop session clips into arrangement view. For the end of a section (16 or 32 bars), I’ll cut& paste one bar of the same and add whatever extras, snare riffs, hihat variations, etc, to the clip in arrangement view.

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I have a question for the seasoned (or maybe even unseasoned?) Sampler and/or Simpler users. If you make a longer recording of various sounds you want to play as individual samples – do you just plonk the one whole file in as many Sampler/Simplers as you need, with different in and out points for the file in each device, or do you chop up the file first and save the individual bits and then plop them into wherever you need them to be? (Posting while aware that my question may reveal the scantity of my knowledge and also because of that perhaps not really make sense or be relevant.) Thanks!

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Yes, yes and yes. You can do it however you like. Simpler also has a slice mode with a lot different adjustments for slice by transients with sensitivity, slice by divisions and manually. You can even drop effects on individual sample “cells” when making your kits. (Not in slice mode tho)

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Excellent. Thanks a lot!

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Just like Soysos wrote. And if you right-click and choose Slice to drum rack you get all the different transient-samples on their own pad in drumrack - and can add effects, make volume adjustments etc.

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Thank you @janglesoul and @soysos ! Your good answers make me feel like I have to up the ante.

So: what if, in my long sample, I had banged each of a series of various objects twice, with the intention of being able to round robin each bang in ableton. Only with two samples per bang (two bangs of the same object), but still.

I did read the how-to-make-round-robins-in-simpler-or-sampler part of the manual, where it says to use nested drum racks and the random midi-effect, and I could kind of make it work, but I would still love to hear, in this scenario, what your getting the samples into simpler or sampler workflow would be. So the same as before, but now instead of one sample per hit, I’d like each hit to trigger either of two (if it matters, in the long sample file, consecutive) samples. If that makes sense. How would you best cut and place your samples?

Thanks again!

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Hi, I’m not really familiar with the “round robin” expression so I had to do some googling. I’m assuming you’d like to see variety happening, to make your sequence less robotic?

Had to look up “nested drum racks” as well :smiley: - always new stuff to learn. Found it described here: Ableton Drumception: Cycling Samples With A Nested Drum Rack - DJ TechTools

It seems that you are well read. I would probably just drag and drop the samples.

If my assumption is right that it’s variation you want then there are other possibilities as well. For example using probability/velocity variation and shared choke groups for each sound. (live 11)

But as you see, this is a bit new terrain for me too

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This needs input from @petesasqwax, who has done at least one video tutorial on round-robining…

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I was just exploring the round-robin approach the other day, and found Ableton’s guide helpful: https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000267664-How-to-create-Round-Robin-sample-playback

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Apologies! I should have made myself clearer for sure :slightly_smiling_face:

What I mean is that each time I hit a specific key, instead of triggering only one sample, I want the sampler (or simpler) to cycle through a row or list of samples (in my case a row or list of only two samples, but the principle would be the same for more, I suppose). And then I am wondering how to best go about assigning those samples to simpler/sampler. And maybe just dragging and dropping them is indeed the best way!

@eblomquist Thanks! I will search for those videos…

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Thanks Ed! I made this which might be of interest/use:

It’s something I’ve spent a fair bit of time on (read: I got a little obsessed with it) and I’m not sure at what point I was with my explorations when I made the video so may have more information to offer.

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Thanks @petesasqwax ! This is great for explaining round robin. For the actual mechanics you refer to the part of the manual I have read and mentioned upthread (and which @Olivier links to in his post).

The thing that made me stumble with that, and which you also have a little squiggle with at 9:32 in your video, and which is now slowly driving me a littlebit mad, is the tiny MIDI note receive chooser in each Simpler in the chain inside the nested Drum Rack.

As far as I can see it needs to be manually set for each Simpler in the chain…? Which is wildly fiddly and laborious… and I keep thinking there must be a better way. Or, as you so rightly say at that point in your video, “This is a learning opportunity!” I also find it puzzling that there is no mention of this in that part of the manual. If anyone has any clues… my mind is ready like a dry sponge…

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@dani_derks may be able to shed some light on this…

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Live 11.0.10 finally fixes the annoying pitch bend/midi cc behavior!

Pitch Bend, Sustain, Expression, Mod Wheel, and other MIDI controllers that one would expect to reset to a default value will now do so at the beginning of clips that do not specify them. (Note: for users who intentionally use the previous behavior, this change will make their Live Sets behave differently. Therefore, the behavior is disabled by default. The behavior can be enabled by checking the “MIDI Envelope Auto-Reset” entry in the Options menu.)

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I was coming here to post about this, but now I’m just coming here to say FINALLY.

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Oh man the amount of time this will save me :sob: I use pitch bend a lot when recording keyboard solos and it would be so tedious editing when all of a sudden the entire track is the wrong key and I have to find a clip that resets it back to zero. SO glad for this.

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Scratching my head, maybe someone can help:

Working in Session view, just one track, drums, with a single Drum Rack. Have two clips, the “main drum loop” and a “fill”. Want to arrange it in Arrangement view so I can put the fills where I need them to be.

Switch to “Second Window” mode so I can see both Session and Arrangement views together. I either copy and paste or drag and drop the “main drum loop” clip from the Session View and drop it into the Arrangement View, and Duplicate for the whole track. I then select and Cut the bars where I want the “fill” clip to go. I do the same process for the “fill”, I copy it from Session View and Paste it to those gaps in the Arrangement View.

Now I hit Play on the big play button at the top of Arrangement View, and it only plays a single clip over and over, when the “fill” comes, it carries on playing the “main drum loop” (or whichever clip is selected in the Session View, i.e. if the “fill” is selected, it just plays the fill over and over).

What am I doing wrong? Why doesn’t it play the fill? Is there a better way to get from Session to Arrangement view?

TIA for any advice.

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Is it possible that you haven’t clicked the’back to arrangement’ button?

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(It may be somewhere else by now, I just googled a screenshot as I’m not in front of the computer right now)

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Oh you are a STAR! That worked. :slight_smile: Thank you so much, knew I could rely on LINES community for a quick and correct answer.

I had never seen that button before. Looks like I need to read up a bit more on Arrangement View…

[EDIT] BTW, what is the purpose of that “Back to Arrangement” button then? When WOULDN’T you want the Arrangement View to follow, well the Arrangement View? Sorry for all the newbie questions and thanks for all the answers, it’s just I am determined to get to grips with Live over the coming months!

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