I just received the invitation for Live 12 beta

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So far, …… it’s quiet in my inbox.

Enjoy.

When Live 11 came out I decided the new features were not exactly critical for me, so thought I’d wait to upgrade and save some money. It was tricky to hold off, but I now just upgraded to 11 with the free upgrade to 12. Nice that Ableton allow you to skip versions like this and still pay the same price… I think this might be the way I approach upgrades where possible.

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does ableton normally offer an upgrade discount somewhere along the road if i don’t jump on the preorder?

At least before they had regular summer sales or similar with discounted Live / upgrade prices.

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Yes, but it’s very infrequent, so consider if waiting a year to get the same deal is worth it. They also offer payment plans now which I took advantage of!

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i think i can hang on for a year or so (but hopefully less). i had preordered the 12 upgrade before spectres and the Max/RNBO sale were announced and all three is just outside of my budget right now. i’m thinking 12 is the least essential for my needs at the moment, so i’ll probably end up canceling my preorder

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Hi !

Is there a M4L (or native ?) way to multiply MIDI Notes so that when I play one, I get more copy of the same note ? A sort of Midi unison, without detuning or whatever could be added…

I am playing with looping parts of a sample in simpler, using Midi Expression Random generator for Start point and Loop length.

Right now I would love to be able to play and loop various parts of the sample at the same time (without having various sets of Midi Expr + Simpler in an instrument rack…).

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How about a chord device, set to play an octave up (or down)?

Have you thought about just using ā€œSamplerā€ instead of ā€œSimplerā€? ā€œSamplerā€ is more or less just a bunch of Simplers asignable per notes so my impression is you could acheive what you want with it, at least reading your description of what you’re after that’s what I would be using. But maybe I didn’t understand the goal cause I’m not sure how duplicating/copying midi notes would solve it in a first place so sorry if that’s the case :sweat_smile:.

Problem is that Ableton instruments don’t allow multiples of the same note. Do they ?
You can always duplicate the chain.

Thanks for those quick responses !

Yes that was my first solution, and it works, but I’d like to be able to not have the sample played at different octaves… In the meantime it gives nice results !

I tried Sampler, but I don’t think I can modulate the parameters that interest me in this one (starting point, loop length

Yes, thanks, I got that after trying for a while.
I understand that it would be hard to ā€œsortā€ the MIDI Off messages, but that could still be interesting.
Anyway thanks !

I’m not in front of my computer right now but I’m almost certain this is possible in Sampler!

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I just tried it and unfortunately it isn’t possible. Somehow these parameters can’t be modulated in Sampler, only in Simpler.

That’s such an odd limitation! Thanks for checking it out. I guess multiple instances of simpler in different chains each asigned to a note zone in an instrument rack is the way to go about it then (which is a bummer since in many ways this is like replicating a proto-Sampler!)

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Try this M4L device:

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The real problem is that instruments themselves are not able to produce twice the same note simultaneously.

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This is really strange indeed as the MIDI specification allows triggering the same note multiple times, so it should not be an unusual scenario.

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Not sure if you already knew but this you can achieve by grouping the instrument and duplicating it inside the group. I often layer things like this, creating multiples of the same instrument with a bit different settings.

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Yes, I actually suggested it a few posts above.