#69

I’m sure you have, but did you see the Shatttr unit posted on the OD forums?

A fracture homage for sure.

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#70

How did I miss this?! Thanks!

#71

Yeah, IMO it’s not an issue, but might be relevant to some.

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#72

Really curious about the Prok drum modules on Thonk. I’m interested in the melodic possibilities of tuning the drums to specific notes and morphing between sounds. The editor looks pretty straightforward.

https://www.thonk.co.uk/product-category/manufacturer/prok-modular/prok-drums/

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#73

I’ve also been interested in the Prok stuff, but aside from the DivKid video, there hasn’t been many examples in the wild. Seem super promising though.

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#74

The sample drum is a much easier/faster workflow for getting sample based drums going than the er-301. While you have a bit more flexibility in the er-301 the sample drum is pretty powerful too and much more straightforward. Once you dig in I think you’ll be happy with it for drum duties

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#75

When it comes to using drum samples in a modular setup, here’s a little info on what I use:

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When talking to Ģirts Ozoliņš about the Erica Synths Pico series back in 2017, he offered to make me this custom design. It is simply ‘4x Pico Drums fixed to a single panel’. But most importantly it has the sample loading connectors on the (left hand side of the) front panel. Whereas the regular 3hp Pico Drums module has the connector on the pcb at the back of the module.

Read the Pico Drums manual and user reviews to know how powerful these little fellas are and imagine never having to unscrew them from your case to load new samples. Sounds tempting, right? That’s what I thought. It has been in my 7u live case ever since.

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#76

I’ve been using Metron + BitBox for drums and all things percussion. On the positive side, Metron’s 16 triggers play well with BitBox’s 16 trigger inputs, and for live, it’s a very powerful combination. On the down-side, both modules are fairly large and will take a up a good deal of your rack. I may pull them out into a separate dedicated drum skiff.

#77

I’ve been spending a lot of time thinking about percussion, as I’m quite happy with the melodic part of my system. So I wanted to bring this back up and add some thoughts:

I now have both the Music Thing Modular prOk BN and SN, and I love them both. I will probably add the CP. I prefer hats that can choke, so the HH misses me there. (Though the Erica Pico Drums can kind of fake it in “exclusive” mode with samples.) I wish they had a USB port on the face for the editor, it is the main reason I haven’t tried the editor yet. They do suffer ever so slightly from being based on Radio Music (having idential controls, ins, and outs), and they can be a bit noisey accordingly, but it hasn’t been an issue for me. Easy to recommend.

As I mentioned above, I can also recommend the Erica Pico Drums. Really great module. Won’t work for everyone, but it’s good at what it does. The interface can take a beat to learn, but it’s actually pretty intuitive once you’ve had it for a bit.

Erica Sample Drum, which I mentioned before. I want to like it. I do. But. The menus are more than I expected. It can certainly do a lot, but you really have to spend a lot of time setting up your configuration. Recording samples is clearly not what it’s best at. Chopping samples is tedious. It doesn’t work well for my more whimsically driven music performance style, but it can do things no other module currently does save the ER-301. The built in effects and envelopes are also v nice. Also having 3 CV controls per sample tracks. V nice. It’s definitely good for some.

Also, I’ve also picked up a Fracture, and I love the heck of it. I agree with @Autogeneric’s and @blacklodgeal’s earlier sentiment that it is exceptionally good in a support capacity. It’s a really dynamic voice.

Also in reply to my earlier self, I still can’t really recommend Grids enough. That said, I’ve been considering percussion more extensively, and it does present of a problem of only providing 3 tracks. I’ve tried a lot of techniques to stretch those into more tracks (sequential switches, branches, logic), and I can’t say I’ve landed on anything that really feels like a satisfying answer to my wants. It’s a tricky problem, and I’m still working out how I want to solve it.

This thread has been quiet for a while, so if anyone has any recent thoughts on generating/sequencing percussion in rack, I’m actively curious. I keep reigning myself in from writing new software to solve problems.

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#78

I use a confundo funkitus and quad clock distributor to add variation to very simple trigger sequences coming out of a trigger man. The confundo uses different probability curves and a cross fader to combine the eight sequences. The qcd divides/multiplies the sequences coming out of confundo (or trigger man and then back into confundo or not). QCD works best with steady clocks and not expertly with more complicated patterns. Close enough/wrong enough for me. Modulating divide/multiply creates fills. At times the sequence gets extremely shambolic, like Television Personalties level.

The biggest draw back with that set up is I can’t multiply each output’s clock before they come out of trigger man. Eg. cant take 1/8 pattern and turn it into 1/16 without the QCD imparting character. I’m sure there are more full featured sequencers that offer that though. I’d still recommend pairing confundo funkitus and QCD with any simple trigger sequencer.

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#79

I use a Confundo Funkitus for my melodic sequences, so I am very familiar! A good shout out.

I kind of hope NE will do a module with the same 2 inputs to 1 output with a slider as a single channel module. While I find it works well for my sort of meta sequencing, I’m not sure how I feel about it for percussion.

I’ll elaborate: With Grids I have a kind of density control over each part of the 3 percussion parts. Want more snare? Turn up channel 2. With CF you have an all or nothing scenario. The entire pattern has to mutate (though it does give you a bunch of options). I wish it gave you a hair more control over each channel (omit from fade, but not mute for example). Though the mutes are definitely killer.

While I am citing a wishlist here, I don’t want to undersell how great CF is. It’s one of the top 3 most important modules in my rig.

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#80

I hadn’t considered CF for melodic sequences! Looking forward to trying that.

Not sure if you’ve considered Event Boss but that was one possibility before I settled on CF. If I remember a YouTube demo correctly it’s designed to create variations on a sequence. I briefly tried Logic Boss but had trouble using it with Trigger Man so didn’t seek out EB.

As far as drum sounds I’m trying to wring as much out the SSF Entity Percussion as I can. It’s my only dedicated drum module but I may replace it. It’s got a lot of expressiveness and modulation possibilities. I think what I’m looking for though is more total drum voices, still fitting in 14 hp more or less… So appreciate the recommendations, especially pico drums. I’ve been satisfied with pico logic and dsp.

I’ve been considering addac t-network but my impression from online demos is that it benefits from lots of audio processing. More than I currently have free in my case.

Where I think this is all going though is delptronics drum module and expander. I like that most of the sounds have dedicated outs and the expander adds cv over pitch, decay or both.

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#81

You might look at a Beast-Tek Amoeba. It is like Grids but has eight trigger / gate out-puts. I use mine in conjunction with a Trigger Riot to add spice but it also functions well on its own.

On a personal note, my new favorite thing is clocking the Amoeba with my Benjolin thus causing generative free jazz.

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#82

I remember looking at it and scratching my head a bit, but maybe it’s somethign I should give a shot. Thanks for the recommendation.

#83

No one has mentioned DFAM? I bought one since the beginning of this topic. It works well but I not sure it’s really a drum machine per say. It’s sort of a percussive sequencer. It does work to add a beat.

If I really want drums I get closer with Robaux SWT16 and the Bitbox sampler.

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#84

I sent this to Noise Engineering today. They said it would probably be too expensive to produce, but I’m going to post it here in prayer for magical future existence.

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Please note this is a mock-up that I made and doesn’t exist!

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#85

I find that the Trigger Man works amazingly well with NE Bin Seq, especially for free jazz drumming and off-the grid drum patterns. I promised NE that I’ll write something about this but I never have enough time!

I conjured up a small 3U system based around the idea of drum sequencing. As a study case (excuse the pun). I highly suggest checking out the Eowave Swing module, it is priceless, albeit cheap.

#86

I like it for subtle, evolving percussive stuff. I love moving and changing, ‘liveable’ hi-hats and clicks and crackles etc., and DFAM is ace for those. And it also goes boom and doom if needed. Great pairing with BIA.

#87

I just picked up a DFAM recently and I’m enjoying it a lot! Lots of fun, and pairing it with PNW gets some interesting results.

#88

I have a DFAM. I had it racked for a while and did some recording with it. I did a show with it. Then it kind of fell by the wayside and I removed it from my rack.

What happened?!

I found it difficult to integrate with the rest of my eurorack set-up. Unless it was performing as the number one boss (or, alternatively, simply doing noise hats and nothing should be 60 hp for doing some hats, folks) I found I was not using it at all.

Since I collect drum machines, I will not sell the DFAM and do plan to use it more someday but not necessarily as part of a euro set-up.

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