‘getting both sides’ merely means to yield both positive and negative voltage from a signal. lorre mill stuff is only +0-5V and ‘doesn’t accept negative voltages’, whereas other systems are bipolar (like Serge, which is to what their answer was in reference). so if you want to send e.g. a bipolar LFO to some lorre-mill device, you’d only be getting the positive part of the signal, i.e. a unipolar version of it. you’d be missing out on all the negative fun. hence the diode. hope that helps clarify…

Thanks, and yep, that is my understanding as well, up to a point… One diode pointed towards the ‘output’ end will block the negative voltages, but what does adding another reversed diode do to the signal?

I am confused as to why one would want to have the negative voltages present if the DK doesn’t accept them.

within the ciat lonbarde system peter uses something he calls mido while his synths go from 0-9v the midpoint is 4.5v instead of 0v around which most synths revolve

with his synths if you take an output and

sorry for the awful drawing

so the out is from something like the triangle outputs from the cocoquantus
then two outputs are taken from that
one diode in one direction and the other facing the other way
the triangle signal is the middle “waveform” haha
the results are above and below it
you get steady voltage above/below depending on the direction of the diode

not sure if lorre mill works this same way or not

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Thanks for the drawing! This is how i visualize the idea too, but when the idea is applied to a signal that is both +/-V, where the mid point is 0V, it seems like adding the 2nd diode defeats the purpose of the 1st one if the goal is to protect circuitry from potentially damaging -V.

Anyhow, it would be interesting to know if anyone has tried the two diode style and had any problems or damaged their DK in doing so.:thinking:

I just got a Double Knot V2 and immediately upon turning it on I hear the clock. no matter what I patch, I hear no other sound except the clock. the only thing that affects the sound (clicking) is the clock rate knob. and I can’t ‘turn it off’. any insight here?

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I think is your best bet

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Maybe you’re listening to the clock output and not the audio output? I don’t have my unit in front of me but I think the audio output is the rightmost one(closest to the corner of the unit)

this is highly likely because I’m an egregious dumbo (doesn’t help that the CV inputs and audio outputs look identical). will report back in full embarrassment.

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okay yes I was. sorry for clogging the thread w this and thank you for not making fun of me @Placebo92

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Lol don’t mention it :blush: it’s defs a pretty cryptic machine when first getting to know it

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no manual included (pdf only), no labeling, … strong Blasser influence, I suspect (for this and other reasons) …

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clock + distortion = instant gabba

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idk guys, might still be broken :upside_down_face:

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It’ll stay between us don’t worry :slight_smile:

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Quick question: Is the Keyed Mosstone calibrated to 1v per oct out of the box or does it require an initial tuning? Is there a factory tuning for the keys?

I have an early first run that required tuning for 1V/Oct.

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There is no factory tuning IIRC but there is a screwdriver for trimmers (I don’t know if it has a more specific name) in the box so you can tune it as you please.

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I am curious about this too. Just received a Moss and trying to work through initial tuning but like you said I can’t get the digital keyboard to span a full octave. The exponential trimmer would have an effect on the keyboard right? Curious if anyone has any more insight into Keyed Mosstone tuning.

Yes the expo trimmer will have a big effect on the overall range of the touch plate keys.

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Here is my setup for calibrating the expo-trimmer on the Keyed Mosstone. I used Hemisphere O_C as midi to CV interface, @markeats Norns Tuner app for monitoring, and theslowgrowths VCO Tuner application. I was able to tune it to track 5c/-5c which is great! More experiments tomorrow further refining, and tuning the keyboard

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