#21

Microtonal thread - YES!
I would like to try this tuning with my mosstone as well, how would I start trying to tune it in this scale?

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#22

I’m tuned to dorian. Really into learning more about micro/macro tuning. The concept has been elusive to me.

#23

I’d be surprised if there wasn’t already one. The search engine here is really good. If there isn’t one, there should be one, for sure. I’ve never really experimented with them but having KM, now, I’m interested to try. I’ve been finding ‘untuned’ melodies with DK, recently which I’ve been enjoying, even though they are almost impossible to play along with…

#24

Your KM works as expected with CV connected to FALL?

I’ll have to test this just to verify, but I could swear it did last time I checked! I’ll get back to you on this :slight_smile:

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the microtonal thread - I just created it, since there doesn’t seem to’ve ever been one, surprisingly! Here it is: The Microtonal Thread

And Dorian is a good choice to start - you should check out trying other diatonic modes, too :smiley: I tuned mine to mixolydian when I got it, and it gave a completely new vibe to the melodies you could get!

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#25

Thanks! It was your KM video that led me to try it out! I also love the idea of making the top bar an octave + a fifth. A really nice way to add more variation.
Are you able to get more than an octave out of your KM keys? I’ve tried a few times and have been unable to, but I’m wondering if having my CV scaling to 1V/Oct is limiting me.

#26

Thanks! It was your KM video that led me to try it out! I also love the idea of making the top bar an octave + a fifth. A really nice way to add more variation.

I’m glad my video was helpful!

Yeah, I really like asymmetrical shifts for the top and bottom bar since it allows for a lot more variety and also gives your melodies a unique flavor :slight_smile:

Are you able to get more than an octave out of your KM keys? I’ve tried a few times and have been unable to, but I’m wondering if having my CV scaling to 1V/Oct is limiting me.

Yes, you can definitely get more than an octave out of the keys, and you’re exactly right - you need to change the CV scaling if you want a wider range for your scales.

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#27

So here’s Keyed Mosstone, played into Norns with the Cranes looper script loaded. A few passes and then a little offset to one side for some sort of phasing. Usual suspects add echoes and reverbs.

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#28

I love your Lorre Mill playlists. Those works and @Allieway_Audio Allie’s vids made me fall for Will’s creations. Thank you both!

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#29

Thanks so much! The @Allieway_Audio videos are what really brought everything together for me. Just incredibly well done. Have fun!

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#30

Really enjoyed the 2019 pieces. Nice work.

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#31

Thanks in 20 characters, Lloyd!

#32

You got really good with the pair. Did you hit a wall with Mosstone? It is a sort of one trick pony, but I really like the trick, mostly…

#33

Not so much hit a wall, as got distracted by other shiny things :slight_smile: my original plan was to go all banana - Ciat Lonbarde, Lorre Mill, Folktek and Serge or Buchla or Phenol (in the short-term). But, financially, I had a hard time seeing the finish line there (as one can imagine). I think there is opportunity on the LM instruments to take them in constant new directions, especially when integrated with other instruments. I really love the tones that come out of both the KM and the DK, and I’m sure they will find their way back to me eventually!

#34

Understood, re - shiny things! I’m TRYING to keep my system compact and to focus on getting the best sounds out of the smallest palette, but… shiny things. I just heard the Bugbrand DRM-2… It would sit nicely next to LM stuff. Plus Will says there’s a new DK soon… Restraint!

#35

oh no doubt there!

good luck with that! :slight_smile:

#36

Thanks a bunch guys, I really appreciate the kind words about my vids, it really is a big motivator to do more!

The Bugbrand stuff seems super fun, and definitely seems like it’d compliment Lorre-Mill nicely. Luckily I don’t have any disposable income right now to be tempted to use (silver lining I guess) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

And while the Mosstone has a distinctive sound that you can’t get away from, I wouldn’t exactly call it a one trick pony - it has quite a bit of utility as a drone, and as a drum voice, for snares/toms/brushed snare sounds, and can also generate some pretty cool textures and rhythms of it’s own. I’d compare it to something like a cello - there are quite a few extended techniques and ways of playing, but it’ll always sound like a cello! Embrace it :smiley:

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#37

BugBrand and Lorre Mill go together great! I don’t have my DK any more but it was great for driving rhythms with the synthvoice and crossover filter

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#38

Will has been back in touch.
My KM is normal.
The Fall knob/CV set up is not as the manual suggests. The knob attenuates the fall time AND the CV input. Meaning that max CV modulation is only possible for the shortest fall times.
Still not sure if this is a design error/oversight, or a design decision. Hopefully Will will illuminate.
Is it hackable? I’ve asked that question, too.

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#39

Curious what you all think on this…

I had a Double Knot, loved it, but had to sell it during a brief financial crisis. But it’s really calling my name again, especially the dual version. However, a Plumbutter is around the same price. Any comparison between the two for weird, bubbly rhythms? I’ve yet to get my hands on a plumbutter.

#40

I think the dual version of the Double Knot is already discontinued (?).

That’s a side note. I use both the Double Knot and the Plumbutter though rarely at the same time.

The Double Knot is blue whereas the Plumbutter is wooden. Whereas the Double Knot can create some heavy or brutal rhythms, I find the Plumbutter more pastoral. Which device bubbles? They both can bubble but if I were to choose one for bubbling, I’d choose the Plumbutter.

Keep in mind, the Plumbutter is actually many instruments crammed into one box! That means it has complexities and complications which the Double Knot avoids by being more singular in focus.

If someone said: “I will cut off your arm unless you give up Double Knot or Plumbutter!” I would give up the Double Knot, personally, because I believe the Plumbutter has a greater range of possibilities for my particular style.

DO NOT MISTAKE ME. I love the Double Knot. Here is a phat track I dropped based around a Double Knot groove:

And here is a phat track I dropped which is 100% Plumbutter improvisation:

To draw this post to a close, both devices can create weird rhythms. A decision to purchase one or the other might be based on which sonic signature you prefer. I think the Double Knot has more anger whereas the Plumbutter has more levity. These are one man’s thoughts.

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