where are the cv outputs for the keyboard sensors? the rise/fall envelope outs?

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right, ‘key cv out’ … jacks oriented ‘on the line’ are inputs, so I feel safe to assume A-B-C aren’t outputs. which is unfortunate, insofar as it would be nice to send each sensor cv to multiple inputs. the fact this isn’t an available feature turns me off to the idea of possibly acquiring one again.

I actually used to have a KM but didn’t have the opportunity to send its cv to anything else at the time.

Correct, the A-B-C jacks are inputs.

sorry for the stupid questions.

Not stupid at all, the entire interface has some level of obfuscation.

Hey guys! Sorry for the silence on my end, things have been a little rough for me but they’re finally getting a little brighter. I wanted to share with you my new video on the Meng Qi Gesture Arcade, a beautiful interface controller/expander for the Double Knot! Check it out and please let me know what you think :slight_smile:

~Allie

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Awesomely insightful video, worthy of the high standard you’ve already set. I’m not sure Meng is actually producing these any more. Hopefully I’m wrong about this. I was lucky enough to snag a Cowboy Callosum, which is an amazing device. I saw somewhere a video of a double version of the device you feature here, designed for the Cowboy, but no longer available—or maybe all of them are spoken for. Very tantalizing.

Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate it! :smiley:

I am under the impression that Meng is still producing Gesture Arcades - my current one was only sent out only a few weeks ago (I originally received one with the colored non-mechanical buttons, but these did not work properly with my Double Knot so he redesigned it). You should reach out to Meng, I believe he makes many of his works to order (especially those as niche as this), and he’s very friendly so it couldn’t hurt to ask :slight_smile:

~Allie

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I was happy to see a new video but totally understand the taking care of yourself bit. Thanks for the time you put into these. I tend to make what I hope is interesting pop music but there is something about Lorre Mill, Meng Qi, CL, Orca, this new world that gets my brain swirling.

Your first Orca video was a great introduction to this world of chance, experimentation, tinkering with music. I feel like these tools really just point out that all art comes from trying things. And these interfaces have been designed with experimentation as the first value. Not that you can’t get to know them really well but even then, I’d probably want to break out of those patterns soon enough.

All that to say, thanks for sharing your interest in these instruments! It’s very inspiring.

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You are very welcome :slight_smile: Opening people to experimentation and new ways of seeing/creating music is my goal, and something I’ll definitely keep pursuing. I’m very glad to inspire people, inspiration is a beautiful and delicate thing.

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I did reach out to Meng. What a sweet guy! I’d asked about the version I’d seen of the gestural device like yours for the Cowboy Callosum. All that was available for that product was a waiting list. So perhaps someone in line ahead of me will back out for whatever reason. I could always get a gestural device like yours and use one half of the Cowboy, but that blunts the appeal of the dual hemispheres. I guess this is one of those moments where one should be happy for what he/she has.

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do you mind sharing his contact? or via his website perhaps? :slight_smile:

I think I just went to his website and signed up for his newsletter. Also he has a store on Etsy and there might be contact information there.

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@MengQiMusic is also part of this community, if I’m not mistaken

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You can contact Meng through https://www.mengqimusic.com/contact :slight_smile:

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serge-controlled keyed mosstone
unedited (arbitrary total duration)


an attempt to project maximal diversity of surface texture through linear ‘gestural’ discontinuity—unsure if I was successful, still more work to do…
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Following up on the Banana discussions before, it looks like Modular Addict now has a variety of colors and lengths available:

https://modularaddict.com/banana-patch-cables

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awesome, care sharing some patch note? is that a serge 4U? or euro?

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wow thanks! yes, 4u—r*s edelweiss, first version:

iirc, both slope generators self-cycling and feeding-back on themselves (top bipolar out to vc in on bottom sg, and vice versa) and ssg patched as triggered ssg by sending an lfo to the trig i/o on the random src to trig its s&h out. then sending stepped out and dusg out to the xor block. sending gates from coupler to pulse divider, then stacking odd/even pulse gates to vc in on dusgs. so, for cv and gate inputs on mosstone, respectively: dusg unipolar out, xor gate out. also sent the second dusg out to the wavefolder input and ssg out to moss cv on mosstone. might be mistaken on all this, though; I’m still terrible at remembering to take patch notes. I also activated the touch-sensors every now and then, with the randoms sent to its stepped cv and pitch inputs just to generate random cv internally, upon each instance a sensor was activated. quite a bit of manual modulation of pitch, rise/fall, and noise, too.

thank you for your interest!! I just got a mosstone again (quite cheaply, I should add) after selling mine awhile ago—forgot how versatile it is. and I haven’t had any issues (yet?) sending it bipolar voltages, though I’m trying to exercise some caution by sending random sources et al. to the dual processor first before sending straight to mosstone. I’ve also been able to use key cv out and control voice functions on the serge, though the mosstone’s internal offset is quite a bit higher (haven’t measured exactly, yet) than to whatever your voice would be set, seemingly despite tuning down via trimpot–but nothing totally unmanageable.

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