Alternative tuning, scales, quantizing, etc

…funny. Seeing JUST in the title of this thread got me thinking if there is a way to shoehorn different tunings into the current ansible midi feature set.

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imagine a world where synthesists complained of “mere 16-bit tuning” from 2010s-era pitch CV DACs

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I’m trying to remember the bit depth of the DACs on ansible. I think they might be 14bit…

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“in order to replicate the charm of ansible sequencing we created the exact model of the vintage 14-bit DACs that were used in that era”

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I’d settle for 12 bit with 0 INL. :smiley:

Alternate tunings should be possible if I’m willing to compile my own mods to firmware, yeah? Obviously w/ Teletype I can just specificy whatever… Not as compact as N 7 but doable. But for Ansible, possible with some custom effort.

only ~410 notes per octave? bah! :joy:

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You know, if I were a maker of digital musical instruments, I would definitely overuse “PD is free” as a response to feature requests

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Yeah my knowledge of MIDI is fairly limited so Ableton is naturally where my mind goes first but I just meant using the computer as sort of an intermediary between the controller and Ansible.

Mutable Olivier prototypes in PD a lot apparently and I’m sure he’s not the only one.

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Computers for quantizing? It’s overkill, for one thing, and IME a really awful experience–though it may be better with the right lashup of input and output for the computer.

I for one am baffled by the default 12TET mindset in electronic music.

Thankfully if you do modular or analog things are never really in 12TET.

Weeeeellll, I think this is only true in the same sense that an orchestra is never really in 12TET. The dearth of quantizers that offer scales outside of 12TET speaks to @jnoble’s point.

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I just mean things are never in any kind of tuning.

But yeah, I’m also surprised but OTOH my first pitch quantizer was an Ornament and Crime, so I always knew there were other options.

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About half my first album is some kind of microtuning (19TET, 24TET, non-Western, etc), and the remainder is as well-tuned 12TET as any acoustic instrument I’ve ever played. YMMV

https://www.amazon.com/Hydrogen-Alpha-prettyhowtown/dp/B01ABICZ3A

Agreed - 12 TET has never made sense when looked at in detail…

I haven’t watched the video, but the circle of fifths supports the notion of having 12 tones (but note the Pythagorean comma …).

But other systems have a lot of possibilities, including exotic stuff like non-octave based scales.

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Not to dogpile, but I agree with @jnoble—12 does seem reasonable as a result of circle-of-fifths calculation. Then in defense of equal tuning, considering how fundamental it is for Western music from Bach to Schoenberg and on, as far as arbitrary standards go, it’s not so bad!

(it was a joke! Things go out of tune, etc.

Going to observe from the corner now :wink: )

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