i’m a drummer :slight_smile:
'trap kit is jazz talk for 'contraption
meaning that with a hi hat pedal
and a kick drum pedal
one cat can play 'all the drums
earlier, all trap kits had a set of chinese wood blocks
many parallels with modular synthesizer rigs…, it goes in waves of fashion and convention
most drummers now use a 'hi-hat and not a 'low-boy
size, portability developments apply as well
what @glia says 'trust your ears
this video also has some colonial commentary about colonial mindset…
('work… easier, etc)

whatever it is, make peace with the reflections coming back to your ears
:slight_smile:
'play music

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I picked up playing the djembe about six months back and have been very much enjoying the journey. I didn’t have any prior percussion playing experience and like anything the more I learn the more I realize there is to learn.

Like @Starthief mentioned it is definitely not a quiet instrument. If going with a more traditional natural skin + rope djembe I would recommend figuring out how to get it properly tuned up. My understanding is that goat skin is generally the most common but cow/calf skin is also used be it less traditional. Cow skin is typically thicker than goat which makes it more durable - potentially nice if your environment is subject to large temperature/humidity swings. Sound wise cow/calf is a bit more muted than goat but all of the drums I tested out varied wildly in tone due to differences in skin type and size/materials of the shell. In the end I just tried lot’s of them and chose the one which I could get the most distinct tone vs slap along with a pleasing bass.

In the Los Angeles area I strongly recommend visiting Motherland Music. They do sell online but the online selection represents only a fraction of what they have in shop. All their drums are beautiful and unique (particularly their full size djembes).

So far I’ve been happy with what I can get with it; recording some patterns in Live, then adding electronic elements over that (often with Kaivo and Aalto). I’ve found starting with a traditional African rhythm as a base and launching off from there to be fun and fruitful.

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Water cooler bottles do sound good for hand drumming.

If you’re playing guitar, you’d probably enjoy getting started with a kick under one foot and a hi-hat or tambourine under the other.

A tambourine affixed to the hi-hat pedal doesn’t sound as harsh as a hi-hat.

If you’re sitting down to play guitar, then it’s just like have your tapping feet amplified.

Alternately you could try one of those stomp boxes that have a piezo element to amplify the click of your boots on a small wooden box.

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Just want to co-sign this. Not an LA resident but have had pleasant interaction with the staff while picking up two items online.

This is my new go-to source for percussion. Very authentic (i can speak for the nigerian drums i checked) high quality materials and they seem to also have informative descriptions for all items

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Ohhhh Motherland seems to have quite affordable oghene’s, will definitely have to check those out.


I’ve always been very inclined to play percussion but never had the independence to play kit. A few years ago I got a Remo djembe which I mainly picked so that I could tune it easily, but it also has a synthetic drum head and a metal inner hoop so it doesn’t really sound like a traditional djembe at all. Regardless the drum is quite loud / resonant as @Starthief has mentioned, so much so that I can’t really play it in a traditional manner in my second floor row home apartment without pissing someone off.

So given these limitations and my interest in playing outside of traditional technique, I’ve experimented until I came up with a different kind of playing style. I stuffed the base of the drum with a large cloth to kill all the resonance and have the head tuned very tight so the synthetic skin has a very snappy response. Hand technique is highly modified. I play with the outside of my right palm almost in constant contact with the drum head but with varying pressure to create different decay times of the skin.

I also utilize three appendage groupings for distinct strokes: the side of my right thumb in the center as a bass thump (think sharp kick beater, not a boomy bass), the tips of my index+middle+ring fingers on my left hand for tone and slap sounds at the rim, and the underside of the first knuckle on my right middle finger (in between the center and rim) for ghost notes and rolls. I do use both hands for slaps and bass sounds occasionally, but over time I’ve found I stay mostly stationary at this position, rhythmically pivoting between these three points of contact.

It’s been a lot of fun to figure out what kind of playing style works best for the cross section between this instrument and my interests. At one point I had one of those Remo tone dots in the center of the head but the drum became too tonal for my liking. Also, I’m often playing alone to explore patterns that I can apply to the electronic realm; haven’t had the courage to meet some strangers at the park and show them how I’ve bastardized the instrument.

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I’ve bought more than a few things from Lark In the Morning, often percussion instruments that I struggled to find anywhere else…

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I’m completely stuck in the Afro-Caribbean folkloric rhythm wormhole right now. Haven’t turned on my synths for months except to check some repairs. What a staggeringly deep and rich neighborhood of music this is. I thought I had some idea, but it turns out I had no idea.

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This is wonderful! I love Tinariwen but somehow never heard of this… Made my day!

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that’s one of the things i got!
just recently found out what they’re called (i already had two small singles acquired from my uncle as a teen)

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Nice! How do you like it / what size did you get?

I’ve been thinking about getting one since I discovered this video earlier this year, the balance of limitation / expression with the three main strokes + muting is right up my alley. & of course the players are stellar; I love how they lock in so seamlessly when the dude in blue joins.

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I have a lot of hand percussion. It’s very difficult to find practice time without annoying people with my noise-making. I would suggest starting with a caxixi. It is relatively inexpensive and quiet, but capable of complexity and sensitivity in the hands of a master. They are very organic, being nothing more than a basket woven of straw with some seeds inside. And no one will ever complain from the next room or apartment:

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I regularly use my water bottle as a cowbell. It’s a big metal one, 750 ml, with four distinct tonal areas; the neck, the rim, the body and the base. Plus, you can alter the pitch if you add water.

Just don’t do what I did the other day and forget there is water in it, and turn it upside down next to your computer.

Is it okay to post a link?

edit; besides being handy at impromptu jamborees, they are fantastic bottles with a sort of thermos-esq function as well.

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Water vessels (no pun intended) are super fun to play! I’ve had fun experimenting with different water levels in mason jars; using a two piece lid is especially interesting, variety of pitched tones with how much tension is used to screw the rim piece on.

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That sounds great! Definitely going to try that…

Another one I was playing around with recently was tic-tacs in a steel baking bowl. Maybe not items you’d have handy for a campfire jam, but super fun for studio play.

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Big plastic bottles that are made for water coolers, like this one

make surprisingly nice percussion or wind instruments. :smiley:

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yessss

just discovered that vid a few days ago…they are killin it

such rich culture!

this pair of small 4-5” oghene are the ones i’ve had for years

got a linked pair of 11” bells on the way (probably the same size as the guy in blue above)

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so good !!

the folks who are just vibing and not playing any instruments are my favorite part of this video

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All this bell talk is threatening to reignite my bell acquisition syndrome! I had quit buying them after I found my favorite. Cubans call this guataca, and it’s just an old hoe blade. It’s got a nice tight sound on the open, mute and edge without so much ringing and tone as a proper bell. Sounds good with a stick or metal striker like a tuning wrench. I suppose any old hunk of metal would work, but the hoe blade is traditional. In Santiago, the carnival troupes take it to the next level and walk around all day banging on automotive brake drums.


I also want to recommend this book to anybody interested in digging deep into what makes complex interlocking rhythms work (or not). The Clave Matrix has really opened up my mind and ears.

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the pace of life in nigeria is so beautiful

their relaxed attitude comes thru in some styles of music too (like they are in no rush whatsoever to add all the elements of this piece…each joins in their own time)

i love it :smiley:

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motherland came thru with super quick shipping…i was worried they might get delayed!

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