I understand what you mean by breaking the GUI, but as I see it this doesn’t interfer that much with the rest. You first turn to the option (note on/off, glide, accent) and then you select your note. though it is not extremely practical i must agree…

About your struggle:
Isn’t that the thing with the ALL EDIT mode? Hm, have to check, but I simply step through the patterns with the 1 button and change the sequence accordingly… The manual surely needs some love too. :wink:

Ah, when you put it like that it does not sound that strange to me anymore - turning on the option and then choosing pitch, I got it. You would have to go over the whole range then and might get some unwanted high pitched glitches while doing so. On the other hand you don’t have to use it and then everything is at it is now - so nice idea! :+1:

And you got me trying Levels sequencing again - don’t know what misconception I had or what I was doing wrong by now. I tend to loose track of where I am but it works. And the workflow seems to be as special as with a 303 so I think I also understand how you got there…:smile_cat:

x0x sequencing love!

But why not enable getting to the options from “below” also, so you choose the shortest way to the options… as the encoder is endless.

Hope tehn reads this and finds it attractive enough to implement…

While we’re at it: Now that I played with Levels the whole afternoon and tried to break it with i2c commands I would love if the slew would have a visual expression on the Arc…

:heart_eyes:

Think I’ve come across a minor bug.

Using as an externally clocked sequencer and limiting the number of pattern steps to <16…

As expected, when progressing Clockwise through patterns, pressing the 1 key will cycle through a preview/edit mode for all active pattern steps

When progressive Counter-clockwise through patterns, pressing the 1 key will cycle through all but the most CCW step and will instead include the pattern step 1 CW step further on that is not active. Basically it seems 1 step out so you can’t easily edit 1 of the active steps while it is being externally clocked.

Does that make sense?

At first I felt Levels was pretty limited in it’s sequencing ability but I’m beginning to find it a really nice unique performance sequencer!

A couple of the suggestions posted here that I’d love to see are user-programmable scales (linked with Kria/MP?) and a latched pattern edit mode to free up a hand.

Is there a way to adjust the acceleration of the knobs in levels?
I would like to have the option for a one to one relationship, for more controllable fast movements.

I know the super smooth arc knobs don’t like to move super fast, but its just a thought.

:bird:

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Oh yes, please! I bump into it every time I use Levels - when you turn the controller too fast it becomes a switch.

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will check it out

Thanks tehn – haha, poor scaling makes it sound bad, I see it like personal/preferred mouse settings.
:bird:

ha! it’s funny you bring that up. i truly believe in “poor calibration” when it comes to these sorts of tools. sure, you can “learn” a poorly calibrated tool, but i do believe there is a natural and balanced set of parameters that will facilitate optimal use. this is absolutely the case for mice/trackpads. i’ve said this before, but i’m stunned at how well the mac trackpad is tuned. it feels natural to the point of being invisible. i can say this about few other input devices.

the point being: you shouldn’t have to consciously not move the arc knob too fast because you know it’ll behave badly. you should just do what your body-mind thinks is the right motion, and the machine should know and react correctly

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Interesting! I like the theory and look forward to the next tuning! :bird: ( i like this bird icon too)

Playing with Levels today, I noticed that the reset doesn’t work correctly both with external clocking or otherwise. It just goes back to the first step for 1 step and then goes returns to where it was.

Just stumbled across this thread while trying to see if there was a way with Levels and Ansible to have different clock speeds for each ring or allowing you to add mutes in for certain steps of the sequence. Is this something that would be possible? I guess right now you could do this by just using something like a Tempi to control gates to create the mutes manually though right? The more I think about it I wonder if Kria isn’t more of what I’m looking for.

looking to do something with levels in note mode and i don’t think it’s currently possible but please correct me if i’m wrong…

i want to get a gate output when i manually scroll through notes in a scale by physically turning the knob, every time it hits a new note. currently it only gives gate outputs when you play through a pattern. not sure if this would be possible with an update but if so that would be rad!

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I’m not sure if this is the right place for this post - admin please let me know if it isn’t -
I’m working with Levels and Teletype right now and I’ve found what seems like a bug.
I’ve created a simple pattern of 8 arrays of notes. When I cycle through the pattern using the 1 and 2 keys I can edit each position as I go - ie the arc is ‘live’, however if I use teletype
LV.POS x
then the arc is no longer live and I cannot change the notes.
This is rather frustrating as I don’t want to be limited to cycling through the arrays, and also I was hoping, in this case to have 3 stored notes/voltages and one ‘wild card’ which I could play by ear. This doesn’t seem possible.

Can I request a new Ansible + Arc app here? I started this thread a little while ago:


about creating an arc + ansible rhythm generator and it was an addition I initially planned to attempt myself but I ran into a few issues and since then I’ve gotten a new job and have had less free time so the project has kinda fallen off my radar-- in the thread I linked to there was definitely some interest in such an app, I think it would make the ansible + arc combo a lot more powerful

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I’ve been playing a lot recently with the Arc Levels sequencer as I feel it is hugely underrated / underused. Here’s some suggestions/requests.

+1 for inserting silent notes instead of having to play every step chosen. That makes a big different especially if combined with independent pattern lengths per ring (as below)

  • a setting for independent loop + track lengths (like Kria) per ring, instead of the current global all rings set to the same defined length.

  • an option to lock a particular parameter page eg transpose - so you don’t have to keep your finger on the button whilst playing live. Transpose in particular shouldn’t be buried so deep in the menu and more higher level for live performance.

  • clock divider/multiplier per ring setting so each ring sequence plays at a different speed.

  • different play modes - similar as on White Whale, Random, Drunk, Ping Pong directions etc

  • I’d like a simpler way able to save patterns. The current system preset (16) is ok but the pattern saving submenu within a preset should be refined. Having to manually highlight the step start then step end is frustrating and slow. I just want to be able to quickly copy a pattern and alter. I’m doing this via the 16 presets as its much easier, instead of using the copy/paste step sub menu.

  • a metasequence pattern chaining type song mode.

  • ability for the user to select / highlight individual notes with no clock running - per ring. This allows you to then play each ring manually by hand like a piano within a user defined scale.

  • user defined scales like on Kria/Meadowphysics

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+1 for these suggestions (especially play modes).

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more Arc Levels suggestions

  • the ability to clock / unclock certain rings - for example 4 rings/4 oscillators - have 2 rings running a clock sequence - like a bassline and melody and use the other 2 rings unclocked so you can play along by hand.

  • ASR - 4 oscillators - have 1 ring trigger the other 3 rings running from the clock. Have each trigger delay programmable. Also have the cv out quantised. With no clock turn the first ring so you can play chords with the other 3 rings

  • have a programmable internal clock that is saved per pattern

Here’s how I use arc when unclocked but would be great to have a couple of rings clocked instead of all 4

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Yes! That would be great additions to it, finally got round to using it.I’m not understanding the NOTE (all edits mode) compared to NOTE in the Config view.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated