#187

this earthsea was a NEW THING until the NEW THING came out :slight_smile:
i guess earthsea is now the one app that exists in one form or another on ALL THINGS?

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#188

this is such amazing work. thank you for this. i just got an ansible and i cant wait to finally try earthsea. excuse me if this question has already been covered but i cannot seem to find a clear answer. does earthsea share the scales with kira / meadowphysics? is it possible to make it use those scales? and if not, how do the scales in earthsea work?

#189

if i’m not mistaken ansible’s earthsea has only chromatic scale as of now.

#190

As of the current version, the notes are laid out more or less like a guitar. There was some talk of scales earlier in this thread ( around post 144 ), but it doesn’t sound like it’s very high on the to do list.

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#191

yeah, i’ll likely just add a way to select a shared scale, editing scales would still be done in kria/mp.

while we’re on this topic, how would this work in practice? would each row shift by a certain number of notes within a scale, or transpose the whole scale by 4 semitones (or a different number of semitones)?

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#192

This seems odd to me. The only possibility I can imagine is perhaps that the scales could overlay and light up the grid to guide you, but the root note might not be clear. I don’t think it makes sense to lose the semitone/fourth layout.

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#193

Lighted keys overlayed on the current note scheme (guitar fretboard layout) is a good idea. Maybe the root note could be much brighter than those keys.

Otherwise, I think a set up with keys/notes outside the scale “forced” out (and several octaves across the keybed) would be best.

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#194

so, to reference how other isomorphic keyboards (eg Push) do custom scales: on Push, each row goes up in fourths still, but rather than each pad being a semitone, each pad is a step in the scale. Ie: seven pads horizontally for the seven steps of the scale before the octave comes around, upwards in fourths. If the scale is less than seven notes - blues, pentatonic - octaves come more often.

Push indicates octaves with highlighted blue pads for octaves, and highlights the current notes in green - across all rows, ie, if you push a note in row 2 that is also in row 1 and 3, it will light in both of those.

Anyhow: isomorphic layouts with non-chromatic scales work really well, although the small key size on a grid makes the chromatic layout much more playable than on a Push.

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#195

I personally find the perfect Fourth layout being the easiest to interface with, especially with poly functionality implemented, Root notes lit up brighter

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#196

imo I am fine with or without scales, as the layout is very playable as is. I would, however, love key mapping. :slight_smile:

#197

hey

i am on linux 64 and i built the dfu programmer
i am a little confused because i WANt the earthsea stuff but this thread is huge and i woudl be appreciative for an updated link that had latest 1.6 ansible AND earthsea?

thanks

#198

here it is:

it’s based on the official 1.6.0 release, not the latest 1.6.1. i can rebase and post a new version but iirc there are more changes expected to be merged to master?

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#199

Thank you
Worked like a charm after of course i found the USB cable :slight_smile:

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#200

I just tried out this firmware variation and had quite a bit of fun. Awsome work!

I wondered if it would be possible to have a round robin voice allocation mode too, to be able to play single note melodies with overlapping note releases (e.g. bell like tones or plucked strings)? With the ER-301 or the TXo the grid could become some kind of glockenspiel then.

Also you probably already realized it - playing with linearization and direction changes at some point suddenly increases the speed of one of the directions.

#201

Another bug I just found - a bit hard to descirbe:

When I switch off at least the first playing voice in the voice allocation setting I het stuck notes on certain buttons. Everytime I change the voice allocation (switching on ore more playing voices on/off) on another button or two but within a certain voice allocation setting every time, and always on the same button.

#202

iirc you can use “stop play” to end any hanging notes as a workaround.

there might be other bugs where it leaves notes hanging - at this point i probably won’t be fixing these as my plan is to do a complete rewrite when i get a chance to work on this again, so doing any development in this version will be essentially a throwaway work.

adding an option for rotation is a good idea, i’ll consider adding it.

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#203

Yes, after playing the whole evening with it, hanging notes seem to be a thing. Sometimes they sum up in a loop over time to become a steady drone until their voice is getting used again.

Great to hear that you are still onto it though, cause I think it’s great! :grinning:

#204

Can’t thank you enough for this! I was one of the folks that couldn’t get the original earthsea module to behave in my system no matter what I tried.

One thing I notice with this version; however, is that notes/arps are being retriggered/reset when I release a note/button. This makes it difficult to play one note to another with even timing unless I actually time my release before pressing another button (which feels really odd). I’m guessing this is somehow a result of implementing polyphony or note-stealing in earthsea?

I’m running earthsea in arp mode and loop mode with only channel 1 gate and cv active.

I know norns is upon us, but if you could look into this when you get a moment it would be much appreciated! :blush:

#205

not sure i understand correctly, could you list the steps and the desired outcome vs what actually happens?

#206

Sure, no problem:

I record a pattern, activate arp and loop, press a button (notes/gates sound). Depress/release the button, and upon releasing the note/gate pattern sounds again. Normally, if you press down a key (on a keyboard for example) the note sounds and then when you release the key, you hear nothing. That’s not what is happening-I’m hearing the note/arp pattern being triggered again upon release. It may be easily overlooked, but try it and see.