#252

if anyone has any tips on how to use PureData on a 16" 2019 MBP without the fans blasting and my battery dying after 60 minutes i’m all ears.

i’m used to ableton causing my computer to turn into an oven - but pure data ?!? :sob:

#253

I always had PCs until I got married, and my wife has since had a succession of mac laptops that I use or take over completely. the first is a 2.2 i7 MBP that will only do 10.7.5 but runs Reaper totally capably. I only recently started using VSTs and plugins and finally bought my first plugin, which does not run on 10.7.5. so I reached for candidate two, a four-ish year old Macbook Air, which will run the plugin and Reaper, but doesn’t have full featured sound.

so what next? my impulse is to get a pimped out G5 tower since I do not need a laptop and the tower is like half the price. I will never gig outside of streaming, it seems like kind of a steal at the prices I’m seeing. my brother in law says Mac Mini, I’m not opposed, but it seems like you can get the same era G5 tower for maybe a couple hundred more.

love to hear some thoughts, but I will read back through this thread cause there is a lot of info in here.

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#254

Does anyone know what the most recent macOS that is stable and not likely to wreck general functionality is?

I’m still on Mojave and my iPhone can’t connect to my 2015 MacBook Pro which evidently needs to be updated.

I’m hoping to avoid Big Sur for now.

Thanks!

#255

Unfortunately, there are too many variables. My feeling at the impression is that Big Sur 11.1 is no worse than Crapalina ever was. But the fact is that it all depends on what you run and what you try to attach. :tired_face:

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#256

Understood. In that case, was Mojave known for being particularly stable? It’s been pretty solid for me … I recall hearing all manner of scary reasons not to upgrade to Big Sur, but maybe it’s actually ok?

I’m primarily running Ableton with a LOT of plugins, some pretty obscure…

#257

Opinions about the various MacOS releases seem to vary for the same aforementioned variables. I recall Mojave got off to a rocky start, but five point releases followed. Some folks are not having a good time on Big Sur. I didn’t upgrade any systems until the first point release came out, and it actually solved a couple minor irritations I was having with Crapalina.

I would stick with Mojave until you cannot any more, then jump straight to Big Sur. But YMMV. Indeed, it probably will. :tired_face:

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#258

Really, the only systematic approach is to make a list of every device, plugin and application you use, then check the compatibility of each. And you can still be disappointed.

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#259

The developer of one of the software I use professionally told me to upgrade to Catalina and ditch Mojave. It appears that the implementation of the dark mode in Mojave was a bit messy and got ironed out in Catalina and then Big Sur.

His software was having issue with the graphic server from Mojave.

It’s also really easy to create a new volume on a disk using APFS and do a clean install of any macOS to test it.

#260

just got a new Imac pro and apparently Supercollider is not supported yet :frowning:

#261

Has anyone had trouble recently sending loopback audio from YouTube or other program info Ableton with a UAD Apollo? I have no issues routing my system audio to a virtual channel in the Console software, but Ableton won’t recognize the input. This has always worked for me, so I think something might have changed with Big Sur or Ableton. I tried sampling Spotify into Luna and it worked fine, which is what makes me suspect it might be an Ableton issue. I’ve tried Live 10 & the 11 beta. I might test sampling into Renoise or Audacity this evening to confirm it’s an issue with Live.

#262

This is the main thing stopping me from updating my OS at this point … although in the SC github issues it looks like people have had success by building from source and a few workarounds.

#263

For me, the 3.11.2-rc1 binary works on Big Sur, even though the release version of 3.11.2 doesn’t (hangs on launch, same as older versions). I have a MacBook, not an iMac, but that version might be worth a try if you haven’t already.

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#264

If your plugins/apps are 32 bit they will no longer work again past Mojave. Also are they locking out older software from newer phones and iPads? I don’t have the newest but maybe 2 years old and no problems connecting via wifi

If you have an extra drive laying around you could clone the drive and instal the update on that to test it. Much much easier then risking back.

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#265

Here;s an Update
I spent an hour with SuperCollider 3.11.2 which is the bleeding edge and it works on big sur and i also was successful with installing and running tidalcycles
it was not that hard and it will be any day now that support for Big Sur is working in stable Sc3

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#266

Sampling some audio via the UAD virtual channels into Reason seems to have somehow miraculously cleared up whatever issue I was having with Ableton. Very strange…

#267

Has anyone successfully used a MOTU Firewire interface with an M1 mac? Thinking of upgrading my studio computer to whatever the next version of the M1 mac mini is, but my main studio interface is an OG MOTU Traveller (mk1), which I presently use via firewire. I know you can do that silly chain of dongles thing to get to thunderbolt, but I have no clue what that means in terms of “drivers”.

#268

I’d be curious as well. I have a pair of ultralite’s that I use for sound installations as well as in the studio. I run the dongle chain and they work fine but I’m thinking I need to look for a better long term solution for both computer and interface

#269

I also asked the question on the MOTUnation forum and got a promising response.

Not 100% sure if this is helpful in regards to the M1 Macs but I’m using a Traveler MK1 on an iMac 2014 via FW-TB2 adapter on Big Sur 11.2 and it works totally fine. I just downloaded the latest Motu audio drivers (despite it not saying anything about traveler mk1 compatibility) and having no issues here.

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#270

Unfortunately, I was unable to get my MOTU 828 mkII to be recognized by my new M1 MacBook Pro in any way, using the aforementioned dongle chain. Drivers install, but nothing happens beyond that. I believe the “unofficial” support that legacy MOTU firewire devices have enjoyed stops with the M1 machines, though who knows what will happen when they do update drivers for the newer devices. I recently picked up an ultralite AVB in the hopes that it would work as a class compliant USB device - it is recognized, but so far I’m only getting glitchy, unusable low bit rate audio.

On the other hand, my old apogee duet has worked fine as a class compliant USB device. The apogee maestro software doesn’t recognize it, so only adjustments available on the device itself can be done (ie, can’t enable phantom power or change from preamp to line inputs). let me know if I can answer anything else.

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#271

RMEs FireWire devices are working with M1s and a dongle parade. You can get a Fireface 400 or 800 for pretty cheap these days, still a killer interface. I had a Fireface 800 and sold it when RME stated on their forums that they wouldn’t be supporting them on the M1s. Lo and behold a few weeks later they said they were working and had drivers for them. Picked up a UCX in the meantime at a much higher price tag. Great driver support always from RME which I’m sure is a surprise to no one.

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