#144

I installed Catalina and so far other than Elektron’s C6 (which is 32bit) nothing seems to be broken out of the things I use

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#145

To be fair, Catalina does include several firmware updates. (As do most major system updates.)

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#146

Hey Rodrigo! Still everything good with the ultralite mk4? Are you using a macbook with T2 Chip? I’m freakin’ hestitating to rebuy the ultralite but (besides the dropouts) it was the best interface I ever used. So now I’m trying to decide… damn me.

#147

I have a T2 mac and my issues are gone as of a couple of OS updates ago.

I would probably wait wait and see how they (MOTU) respond to the Catalina upgrade, because it’s possible they just abandon some older hardware since everything is 64bit now…

I worry what’s going to happen with my Traveller mk1 in terms of driver stuff.

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#148

Thanks so much. Damn I wish it was easier to just make some music :slight_smile:
Sometimes I really lose motivation on the way to make everything work.

#149

Not sure exactly where to put this…

I just upgraded to High Sierra, pondering going up to Mavericks…

Are folks generally finding it stable and a worthwhile upgrade?

I know Catalina is still quite sketchy at this point…

Thanks!

MacOS 10.14 (Mojave) and serialosc
#150

Been on Mavericks since day one across three major hardware models. Zero problems. I use RME USB outboard gear.

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#151

I’m all the way up to Catalina already. Haven’t had a chance to sit down with my synths in WAY too long, but I never had serious problems with previous versions of macOS

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#152

I’ve held off on Catalina so far because Apogee has listed all the Element interfaces as being not yet compatible :confused:

#153

This is a good argument in favor of core audio compliant USB interfaces.
I’ve just ordered parts to build a hackintosh/windows dual boot system. The plan is to use Catalina and leave my MBP on Mojave for 32 bit compatibility. There’s no hand wringing about getting thunderbolt 3 working on the hack since I’ve moved to a MixPre 10 II for my interface.
Contrast to Duet, which over the years has required several expensive and unreliable adapters and much waiting for Apogee to get their software fixed.

#154

I’m on Sierra (my 100% reliable 10.8 machine died) and my Apogee interface now disappears frequently all the time. Sometimes unplugging a few times gets it to show up, otherwise days can go by before it works again.

Apogee tech support is nice and approachable but in the end unhelpful as they don’t get to the root of the problem and the process just wastes more time.

I mean, I get what causes this, the latest and greatest only gets tested with the latest and greatest. Best only put resources into testing the new stuff because that’s where people spend. It’s not overt planned obsolescence but it has the same basic effect. If I’m trying to use converters made in 2004, with other interfacing stuff made in 2008, with a 2015 machine the joke’s on me I guess. Sorry for wanting quality and also not wanting to discard stuff that still sounds great and for which at the tie

I guess we are in two worlds – those who can afford to upgrade both interface and computer every two years or so, selling the old systems each time at a substantial loss, and those who are trying to make stuff last.

I look at RME – seems like another 6K just to replicate what I have and then who knows how many years that will last before interoperability fails again. 6K when all of this stuff is disposable to begin with.

I wish I could just learn to work with tape and get rid of the computer altogether, sure it will be a major investment as I currently own zero outboard gear… but at least then the investment will be a lasting one and can also be an overall upgrade in sound. I just don’t know if I can get used to the workflow.

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#155

I found Sierra buggy as all get out. High Sierra was vastly better for me.

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#156

did you mean Mojave? between 10.13 and 10.14 there are many changes that affect software at all levels - Mojave is more restrictive, with more preference towards 64bit code, and more old APIs being deprecated and/or abandoned and therefore degrading in performance or stability. I’ve had worse experience with Mojave on a 2015 Macbook Pro than with High Sierra on an older machine. Catalina makes things even worse for old software (or hardware). I mostly use High Sierra right now - the last version that works on my Hackintosh unless I change hardware.

#157

Yes, I goofed! I meant Mojave…

I’m thinking I’ll try out High Sierra for a while before going further.

I had to upgrade from Sierra when I installed Homebrew in preparation for updating Crow. Homebrew gave me a warning that the OS was too old…

#158

are there any developers here using Catalina?

Ive just noticed on the Axoloti forums that the Axoloti application is now not able to call various command line tools that are packaged - in particular the cross platform compiler toolchain.

so the main axoloti (java) app is running fine, but when it forks make - it barfs that make is from an unknown developer. so, Im wondering how alternative toolchains are now installed/handled in Catalina.

one thing I’m getting someone to try (*) , is to move the toolchain where we have it, under /Applications, to /usr/local… but seems a little bit of a long shot/wishful thinking on its own :wink:

(*) I’ve been holding off upgrading to Catalina, to let it stabilise, so hard to ‘remote debug’… I guess I’ll have to bite the bullet to be be able to go sort this out :frowning:

#159

You most likely need to pay attention to TCC, Full Disk Access may need to be set up :

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#160

maybe its possible to install it on different drive and try things out in external sandbox

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#161

SuperDuper! is perfect for that sort of thing. You can either snapshot in place and then upgrade only the snapshot, or you can clone to a bootable drive. Then you have the option to upgrade the bootable drive or your internal drive, depending on how lucky you feel, and you can still fallback to / re-clone from a fully bootable copy of your old system at any point. I use this all the time.

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#162

ok, it looks that things are turning for better with 16’’ model. Hopefully more reliable keyboard. Still worried about T2 chip and soldered in SDD. Wont have to update in next year so lets wait and see.

#163

I tried playing a whole set on Live the other day and the cpu was killing me.
Do you think that upgrading from a Late 2013 15’ inch quad core to a new 8 core + 32gb ram would help much?
I’m a complete noob when it comes to computer specs.