Is anyone here using the RT Owl?

Seems like it could be super handy for trying experiments.

Is there any reason that karma~ wouldn’t work with signals that change at CV rates rather than audio rates? I’m feeling more drawn to CV loopers than to sequencers as the core of a setup right now…

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I built something sort of like the Intellijel Shifty in CV Toolkit. It’s really just a series of sample & holds that are sampling a MN Wogglebug. It’s not a CV recorder, but it’s pretty fun to play around with. Was planning on adapting it to Max so I could use more S&H chains as a sort of shift register / cv looper. I don’t know karma~, so can’t speak to it, but maybe the S&H approach will get you what you want?

Pretty sure it would work fine, as would using chucker~ for re-triggering/arranging.

Btw - for anyone following this thread generally, I’ve made the decision to put it all on hold until Sept. I’m finishing a part time MA and this would be a delightful but unwelcome distraction…!

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This finally happened : )

Gradually picked all that lot up secondhand and just put it together for the first time. Just lost 2hrs mangling a drum loop… so much fun!

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I use Max extensively to control my modular racks. But all CV and MIDI with expert sleepers breakouts. Processing the audio inside the box seems to defeat the purpose of having analog system. At that point why not just generate the audio inside of Max?

I guess for me it would be because that would mean I’d not be able to patch up sounds on my modular with all the CV control etc this allows - the “analogue system” bit (in terms of control, not sounds). I like the idea of a hybrid system where either modular or computer can play a variety of roles depending on what I’m working on.

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In my case this is about processing audio with the modular, then combining those sounds with the computer. Seeing it as another processing environment rather than composition system right now.

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that sir, is a nice case…

It’s a Lamond case, so nice to have something made out of wood.

I was set to buy something like a Mantis, then this came up on Ebay and went for £245 with the Zeus studio bus. There’s an identical one up right now on Ebay in fact…

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Sweet, glad you’re in the mix! I’ve been using a patch that you helped with quite a bit. Finally honing in on a MAX patch that combines with a nice modular patch. Hopefully I’ll finally get some recording accomplished over the course of the fall with this setup before I break it up and try some other things.

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Couldn’t agree more - the beauty of the hybrid system is just like any modular system - infinite workflow possibilities depending on what you’re vibing on at the time. When you’re bored or feel like you’ve adequately explored one, then you can mix it up.

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Thanks for a great read all!

I’ve been working this route for a while using DC audio from my MOTU to drive a 3U rack with Max (hope to step up to an ES-8 for CV back into Max soon tho)

Would love to hear or see some of the work yall have been making with this approach! I’ll post some vids soon as well-

if you mean the OWL pedal i grabbed one but i find it rather restrictive after playing with organelle for a few months. i had to severely limit my code so it would function but i guess the challenge is to really narrow down what you want to do which i take as a challenge and i have made a few sampler/mangler patches and they sound great om the pedal version for what its worth

That’s disappointing. I assume the owl pedal is the same as their eurorack version?

After the initial success I’ve been having real trouble with the aggregate device in OSX.

I’m trying to aggregate the ES8 with the built-in output, but it’s not behaving correctly. Often I need to recreate the aggregate device for Max to even see it, then if it does audio will not be sent. The Audio-Midi Setup in OSX seems to crash sometimes when I’m doing this, so I think it might be something fundamntally wrong with the combo.

Has anyone else had success using ES8 + Macbook Pro Built-in output?

@chris_muller who I bought the ES8 from was using it this way with Live with no problem, so I’m thinking this could be an OSX thing. Chris - if you do see this, were you ever using it as an aggregate with the built-in output on your Mac with Max?

Here are the settings I’m using:

I run a slightly diff setup that works nice. ES3+ES6 connect via optical cable to RME fireface which aggregates with analog i/o and then one USB-connection to the computer. The RME also has a mixer I sometimes use.

I recently added an ES-8 but only used to connect an iPad Pro so far.

Interesting - good to know another option. With hindsight this could have been a better route for me, as I could do with a new interface too.

Though I kind of liked the simplicity of modular + Macbook + one cable.

Unless I hear some success with ES8 + Built-in I’ll try it with an interface and see if that works better. Otherwise will look for a different solution…

I think the ES8 is a very compact and nice solution so I hope it works out. Let us know if you find a solution.

Working with Max + modular is something I have enjoyed a lot. Especially using the Iannix sequencer with max/modular

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