Approaching: norns

[rsdio]

thanks.

i read “scripts that talk to dsp engines” and thought there might be another processor on there

aleph has a blackfin that’s capable of running linux, and that’s apart from the avr32, but i know how much more trouble a product is when it has multiple cpus. one embedded cpu is enough of a challenge.

[ioflow]

nope, it’s not a dedicated DSP - pi compute module (cm 3, quad core) running linux.

aleph has a blackfin that’s capable of running linux, and that’s apart from the avr32, but i know how much more trouble a product is when it has multiple cpus. one embedded cpu is enough of a challenge.

not anymore. blackfin support has been removed from the linux kernel entirely, as of 4.17. the arch hadn’t been maintained in years. aleph’s blackfin doesn’t run linux, though, so that’s not too much of a problem.

norns runs on arm, which is commonplace. linux kernel and software support for arm are excellent. hopefully, future pi compute module upgrades will still be produced in the current form factor.

[andrew]

not sure i can agree! sorry. in a nutshell i’d argue that affordance-based design is a poor fit for a minimal, hackable interface canvas, and your example of a “broken pattern” is really two equally viable patterns. but maybe on another thread.

Right. Yea, cause we’re artists, and a standard that makes things easier to understand for one person could be restrictive for someone else. I can see that. I guess thats the motivation behind modifying an interface. Other peoples interfaces don’t work for me, but that’s a me problem, not a them problem.

[TheTechnobear]

I’m sure that @TheTechnobear can port Norns software to Organelle and Organelle to Norns

Lol, is my name Uli ?

I cannot confirm, nor deny any future plans I may or may not have for any hardware future or past

Seriously, I will say, unfortunately, Norns is a bit out of my price range esp. as I’ve a few similarly capable bits of hardware - a pity as I’m sure it will have a nice community built around it.
so I wish it/you all well, and hope you all make it sing!

[LLK]

Lol, is my name Uli ?

Brace yourselves for @TheTechnobear 's cheap remake of norns, it’s called technorns, only costs 100€, is entirely made of plastic and cardboard, with the help of unpaid ingeneers, and it will bring creative coding to the masses who have been begging for it for so many years ! Available in 2018 or 2022 maybe, we’ll see about that once we’re sure we can scale and have enough pre-orders to get the parts as cheap as possible, but stay tuned on our forum to give us ideas we can exploit for money !

[bobbcorr]

Design guidelines are good things to have, if only to help designers be aware of what rules they are breaking when they seek to solve specific problems. Innovation is a fluid combination of drawing both inside and outside lines, and not drawing at all. I’d follow a thread on that topic. There might already be one too.

Norns is always approaching.

[tehn]

part number for the screen

NHD-2.7-12864WDW3-M1 it’s freakin expensive

edit: but totally worth it.

[bobbcorr]

NHD-2.7-12864WDW3-M1

Wow, you’re not kidding - ~$40/unit! Hope you got a nice volume deal.

But it sure does look purdy.

[julio]

Can we got the whole parts list?

[artfwo]

shows picture.

@artfwo

[glia]

please explain

i thought it was photoshopped at first

[artfwo]

No photoshop here. It’s just a basic image viewer i wrote to check the display capabilities. Turns out that the display can do much more than text The pic is a screenshot from an old DOS game called Electro Man, which is now freeware (CC-BY-SA).

[altoaiello]

Holy cow. That’s wild

[karst]

Love it. As excited to see what people do with the screen as with the sc part of norns.

[papernoise]

please can we play games on norns? Does it support Xbox controllers?

For everybody else, who is interested in discussing UI/UX related matters (@andrew @glia @jasonw22) , please do so here:

UX of Music Instruments & Tools

I’m going to have a lot more to say on this subject in the near future, but I wanted to start the conversation by just opening it up and listening. What music production tools do you use that feel very usable to you? These are tools that make things easy that would otherwise be difficult or impossible. They don’t get in the way of your creativity, but instead expand the possibilities of what you might have otherwise created. I’m interested in hearing why you think a particular interface works …

and also

Composition of Control (instrument design)

forking from https://llllllll.co/t/approaching-norns/13236?u=zebra this comment from @mzero opens an important topic. i don’t know if we have a language for composition of control in this sense. mark, i think you are in a good position to help guide the development of one, which will be a shared effort - we are, in fact, all mere mortals and the first round of instruments for norns are likely to be somewhat ad-hoc, fitting limited roles. there are so many ways to go with the development of a…

[esquilofreniko]

I’m guessing yes but would it be possible to have norns act as a dual custom audio processor?
So having like 2 completelly different sound processing algorithms running at the same time, one processes the audio going in input 1 and outputs it off output 1, the other proesses the audio going in input 2 and outputs out output 2.

edit: and having some sort of grid page based control over both.

[nightstep]

All good now, I understand its potential now, Im quite excited for this.

[thom]

I don’t know why that shouldn’t be possible.

[rbxbx]

not quite xbox, but close!

[papernoise]

20 characters of Indeed!