Approaching: norns

[nightstep]

Could one have norns run an external audio interface?

[thom]

To answer your question, I just found a few posts in this thread :

SC is already installed / configured, with an integrated soundcard. if you want to tweak jackdrc or do something weird (external soundcard?) then you can do so in the usual ways. if you want to replace the OS you’re kinda on your own.

you could absolutely use an external sound card, but it’s not supported in the standard config. it’s linux, so you can go modify the .jackdrc to target a different soundcard than the internal one. or if you’re smarter than me, set up mutliple sound cards (becuase linux)

We’ve enabled all USB audio drivers that are available in the Linux kernel. So any USB audio device that’s supported by the Linux kernel should work on a technical/kernel level. Your best bet is a USB HID/class-compliant USB soundcard, luckily more and more USB soundcards are becoming class compliant

Since a very good soundcard is part of norns doing something with USB audio devices hasn’t been a focus point, so it’s not part of the default workflow to switch to a USB audio device.

But like has been mentioned before it’s still “regular” Linux, so anyone that wants to can login to norns and change the settings so audio would make use of a USB audio device.

USB soundcards operate at USB speeds. the internal i2s soundcard provide excellent latency.

[carltesta]

I’ve been exploring ML approaches to sound, so it was nice to find out they have a library one can use. That said, my use of ML is to ultimately drive dmx lights…

I think our best bet of getting DMX output on the norns is using OLA. I’ve used SuperCollider to control DMX via OSC to OLA with great success.

[bafonso]

Do I understand correctly that you can plug those supported devices and basically Ola talks to them if You feed ola osc?

Right now I made a teensy coupled to a screen driving dmx out but I also have an enttec USB device that’s on that list…

[carltesta]

Yes! It is really simple once you get it installed. a simple osc message like /dmx/universe/0/1 will address the light on channel 1. I made a simple pseudoclass called BusToOSC which enables me to poll control buses and send their values to specific OSC addresses. It’s really helpful for making the connection from SC to OLA. But obviously you wouldn’t even need to use SC if you didn’t want to.

[rbxbx]

The first public mention of Crone! Supercollider tips, Q/A

[garethlyons]

Any one know if the initlal stock apps will support different size grids? I’m sure this question has been answered somewhere this thread a search didn’t produce any results for me.

[tehn]

var-size grids will be supported but the first shipping batch of scripts will focus on 16x8.

that said, adapting scripts for different grid sizes is way easier on norns than with eurorack modules etc…

[papernoise]

var-size grids will be supported but the first shipping batch of scripts will focus on 16x8.

Which poses the question: what are the future perspectives regarding the grid. Not that I would get one now (nor anytime soon), but let’s say I get a norns and find that it would be best complimented by a grid, do I have to look for a second hand one, or are some new grid batches planned for the future?

[glia]

front page of the website has updated projections for availability across the whole range of monome devices (not just norns)

new batch of 128s will be in the shop next weekend

[carltesta]

How does norns deal with some kind of analog pass-thru? Is there a way to get the sound directly from the input to the output without processing? This would seem important for any of the loopers to function so that you can hear your live sound on top of the looped sound.

[garethlyons]

Yeah I would definitely go for a 64 with the latest aesthetic to pair with my Norns.

[tehn]

How does norns deal with some kind of analog pass-thru?

passthrough is digital and latency should be minimal— talk elsewhere of latency and these settings can be tuned re: block size.

[papernoise]

front page of the website has updated projections for availability across the whole range of monome devices (not just norns)

new batch of 128s will be in the shop next weekend

Sorry but I can’t see that info anywhere, where did you see this?

[tehn]

the sold out button has the expected restock date— perhaps it’s not clear enough unfortunately

screencap:

[kev]

looking at the mlr manual in the may 8 thread has got me all excited again. I imagine doing something like activating record with a footswitch is a lower level thing that even a beginner to coding could take on? Also, really looking forward to that diy usb footswitch that @tehn mentioned, but since norns has bluetooth, does that mean that something like this could work?

https://www1.positivegrid.com/bt4/

Also, i have a midi mongoose that sends out PC but I imagine that norns could translate midi messages like Bome does?

[papernoise]

Oh sorry! Privacy Badger was blocking Shopify’s cookies so the website wasn’t showing that bit.
It’s actually pretty obvious now that it displays it correctly!

[argnt]

How about multiple grids running different apps/scripts? I think it was mentioned before it’s currently not supported. How complex would it be to run say a step sequencer on a 16x8 and faders on a 8x8? Or would it be easier to extend an existing script with paging?

[misuba]

I think there was news upthread about only running one script at a time… but if we take the lead of other upthread news about the grid-interfacing libraries being essentially the same as the ones we’re used to, a single script ought to be able to target instructions to multiple grids.

[madeinspace]

Sorry where is the manual for MLR?