I don’t have a grid and still get a lot of use out of norns. two things:

  • a grid is definitely my next music gear purchase. prior to this it was never on my “need to have” radar as (a) I don’t need that kind of controller for my modest eurorack and (b) I don’t use a computer w/ music… until norns. now I can totally see how it would fit my (new) flow.
  • the ecosystem will continue to grow, new midi scripts will be added (or add your own), etc. I expected some limitations (mlr, flin, glut, etc need a grid) so I’m not disappointed or anything (see first point)
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it really depends on what attracts you to this…is it a video that includes a grid?

more importantly have you tried supercollider and lua before? are you planning to write your own scripts?

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Well, almost all videos of it attract me to it. Of which, 75% of those include a grid. That is why I ask, that and I was told by someone today that without a grids it’s almost pointless.

I’ve been very intrigued with Teletype the other Monome euro stuff. This looks to me like an alternative that won’t control my euro but will behave in similar ways, and more. Portability and compactness is also very appealing.

Zero Lua/Supercollider experience but I’m willing to try it. I have gotten the impression that Norns would be more user-friendly than a teletype, at least out of the box.

I am certainty willing to get a Grid, but could a person make due and love Norns without first?

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I am certainty willing to get a Grid, but could a person make due and love Norns without first?

First 3 norns studies are non-grid. Some of the current scripts in dust require grid (MLR, Glut), some have enhancements with a grid (Earthsea looper features use grid, but you can plug in any midi controller).

I didn’t have a grid and wanted to get both at the same time because of the kinds of concerns you are asking about. I think it wasn’t as important to have both as I initially thought it would be (though it is still very useful and very fun!)

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How do other midi controllers hook up? USB only?

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yes–you’d need some sort of usb -> midi adapter if your controller just has 5 pin din.

same kinds of stuff applies I think to this post and the next few in that thread.

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certainly yes in my opinion

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FWIW I am very excited about norns as a stand-alone device, and look forward to writing some interesting tools that can be used without any accessories.

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Beautiful! Cheers from Bremen :wink:

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depends on your style and preference
all the apps i use most (playfair, glitchlooper, cranes, plus all the playfair mods) are samplers that don’t require a grid

i also use mlr from time to time but, surprisingly, find myself drawn to the others when i have time to play

Glitchlooper? Cranes?! What have I missed?!? :slight_smile:

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wrapping up testing with great gratitude to a few folks spending time with it. will be pushed to a gist soon!

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wonderful apps by @carltesta and @dan_derks

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for the curious
https://qiplu.bandcamp.com/album/glep

it’s a barebones 5 buffer glitching looper but I love it to death

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Just got my norns today. But no time to play today. This looper sounds fun. Very nice tracks here. Oval-ish Sounds. :heart:

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Nice! I clicked that just to listen to a snippet, but I ended up listening to the whole EP.

It’s exciting that norns is already at a point where you can make standalone pieces like these. It’s also exciting that I get to sit down, read the engine code, and learn more SuperCollider simultaneously.

Looking forward to the public releases, @dan_derks and @carltesta!

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nice work :slight_smile:

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I was thinking about my experience remixing Glut and Spacetime for the latest Dust release, and that gave me an idea.

For a future LCRP or similar, it would be cool to pass around a minimal Lua script. There would be a separate thread specifically with help for implementing code ideas specific to this project. Each person then submits their own remix of the script, all of which would show up in one folder on Dust.

I suppose if there’s too much worry about unstable/unrefined/unfinished scripts clogging up Dust, we could spin it off into a separate repo.

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I love this idea! Next remix edition of LCRP wouldn’t be until March if we follow the schedule. But there’s the norns compilation that I admit I’ve kind of stalled on organizing. But now I know why, it was so that this idea could bubble up! Let’s do it!

I like the idea of submitting scripts to dust after the compilation is complete. gist or a new repo would be a great way to organize WIP.

I can create new repos in the monome-community org. What would we call it?

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^^^^ this is also of interest to me!