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More insight into the new Floating Points album.

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deep kria vibe here:
“The simplest but maybe most effective thing is not having the same length for every rhythm. If you’ve got four percussive elements, make sure they’re not all the same length. It’s like Messiaen’s Quatuor pour la fin de Temps idea. He’s got these melodic patterns of 12 notes on the clarinet but the rhythmic pattern is 13 notes long. So it goes through the 12 melodic notes but then the first note of the next melodic cycle is only the 13th rhythm. Then the second note of the melody is then the first note of the second repetition of the rhythm. Then the other instruments have their own specific rhythmic and melodic patterns, too, so nothing ever loops. It takes 200 years of them playing the tune to all land on the same beat again.”

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the new Floating Points album is tremendous, looking forward to reading the article

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Speaking of that Floating Points video from RA, I’ve really been enjoying that series “The Art Of Production” they’ve been doing. I’m a big fan of Surgeon’s work, and this pair of videos from that series are great. Love the super minimal live setups he’s tended to use in recent years.

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I was surprised to see how minimal a setup he uses - though for that kind of techno it makes total sense.

and of course his abstract rig has a big ole lyra at the heart of it.

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How are the loops on the 45000 (or any live looping setup for that matter) cut at a loopable point? (let’s say 4 bars)
Is that just on the performer to press the correct button at the correct moment?
There is a MIDI cable it seems, so might be that it’s somehow clocked?

The 45000 has an automatic quantize mode.

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(from the FP link)

Just to be clear, I don’t want it to be assumed that a technical knowledge of harmony is necessary for making harmonically interesting music.

You absolutely don’t need to be able to play an instrument to explore this world. I think maybe as a kid I thought it was essential. Some of the best musicians I’ve met can’t play an instrument. Many of my favourite musicians wouldn’t consider themselves to be technically sound. But those same people can have an incredible sense of harmony.

Even though I do have that technical grounding, there’s a process I use that’d perhaps be useful for people who think they struggle with chords but still want to come up with something that interests them. Basically I record lots and lots of chords completely independently of each other. The overall key doesn’t matter, they can have no relation to each other whatsoever. Then you sample these chords, lay each one out on a key of a keyboard and experiment with playing them back in a different order to see if a certain combination sounds nice to you.

That’s just one way of exploring new progressions that you otherwise might not have come across. For me, as someone who can get around a keyboard, I still might not come up with any of those combinations naturally. I’ve got those go-to voicings as you say. I end up slipping into certain progressions. But this technique can get you exploring harmonic progressions that you wouldn’t have thought up, whether you know about the theory behind harmony or not.

with normal keyboards i find my hands physically playing progressions that are familiar

with earthsea (ie grid of chromatic notes in stacked fourths) a completely new playing style emerges and chord shifts i never would have done just spill out in the best ways.

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I’ve noticed that too, sometimes it’s even super interesting to me how, with earthsea, I end up doing something and I’m like “Oh that’s a typically whateverartist melodic line!” and it’s often in a genre I’m not super knowledgeable about, or an artist that I feel is distant from me. Which really doesn’t happen all that much with a guitar or piano, where I feel more like exploring more technical little aspects of a general pattern that’s pretty much “my backyard” and trying to make it as subtle as possible. I feel the convergence of both those processes is really the basis of my work.

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I don’t have access to Earthsea but find that Chordion on iOS offers a similar level of functionality. It reminds of an Omnichord.

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simeon coxe with friends, circa 1968:


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It kind of looks like the Easel version of parts of the studios of Hainbach or Look Mum No Computer

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Yesterday I was thinking when finally will computer be accepted as an „instrument” at musical academies. When I create music I often have those mannierisms from playing guitar/keys which I feel still steer my music in particular direction even when creating music by using mouse on computer. So I wonder how would music sound if created by someone whos first and only instrument is laptop without any keyboard controllers etc. Maybe still such person would gravitate towards more traditional harmonies or maybe the voicings would be much more different when not constrained by patterns engraved in muscle memory.
Unfortunately even some persons in experimental musical circles still think of pure „laptop music” as something lesser to acoustic music but hopefully such people will be less and less frequent (I myself always try to oppose such views publicly because I feel they are a classic example of gatekeeping).

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just sold a bunch of stuff and rebuilt my performance rig, seems i have some similar thinking to Surgeon.
Out of frame is a guitar + distortion and octave pedal, and a Morningstar MC6 foot controller for triggering recording on the Octatrack. (also I will be taking this out live in Bristol (UK) on 4th Dec at Cafe Kino if you want to hear in action :slight_smile: !

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Surachai did a series of videos some years ago on Atari Teenage Riot who have one of the most interesting live rigs I’ve seen. Modular, circuit bent toys, old Atari computers, DAT machines…




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@karol I think this is a fascinating question. I have been making alot of music I like on VCVRack lately and I have been trying to put together a hardware setup as a consideration for doing something live.

It just doesn’t seem right to work all in the box, but I don’t know why. Kind of driving me mad actually. It seems more interesting I guess if there is hardware up there.

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I absolutely love AraabMuzik’s simple workflow/setup.

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Solid, makes me wonder what he’s doing in software.