#4

Do you know where I can find this version?

#5

Ithikaa I just opened your app and its excellent, thank you very much for sharing it with me.

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#6

yes sure
http://monome.org/docs/app:returns
there’s the original by tehn and the soren edit

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#7

I made this app for the Arc4 and Ableton awhile ago. Also includes modulation - http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2438/arc4-mapper

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#8

Hi, this seems to be exactly what I’m looking (new to m4l). However, I can’t choose my arc. What are the system requirements? edit: I’m using Live 9.5 and Max 7 on Mac OS 10.11.2.

#9

@plopp also did an arc M4L device some time ago. Maybe this works for you …

ArcM4Lpc_v2.amxd.zip (247.7 KB)

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#10

Yes, that’s it!! I love you… :smiley:

#11

Still loving this a lot! If you ever feel an urge to work even more on this patch… to way communication would be awesome: I use automation on clips to set correct state of each page when I launch a new scene. Could this be mirrored on the arc?

#12

it can be done … will be a future project though

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#13

@ithkaa: kudos for this. SO awesome. I’m a bit new to Live automation so I’m sure I won’t be asking this quite right, but I wonder if it’s possible to map this to clip parameters. For example sample transposition or detune?

All I see for options are device parameters:

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

#14

@ppqq tx! I’m afraid this is not possible at this time.

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#15

Ok, cool. Thanks for the quick reply! :beers:

Curious if you have any thoughts for work-arounds?

I found the CLIP PITCH device which looks tantalizing but no longer available… :cry:

As for modifying the patch itself, I’m curious, @ithkaa, for your gut on how insane that’d be.

Again thanks!

#16

I guess i could do this for you, but not before next week or so.

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#17

That’d be amazing and much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

#18

So basically, Pitch, Fine Pitch and Gain, Right ?
Hardest challenge its to fit this nicely in the interface.

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#19

Exactly right. I’m really after fine control of the detune parameter so I can record some subtle pitch change automation envelopes. Gain would be nice too.

Out of curiosity, is the gist of the implementation to change the chooser (behind the scenes M4L.chooser.js?) to point to a clip (or is it clipaudio) rather than device?

If it’s an easy hack, I’d be happy to run with a one-off that was missing a nice UI FWIW. For example, if I had a m4l device that ONLY automated clip params to complement @ithkaa’s version for devices, I’d be really happy.

EDIT: actually had a little luck changing the argument to the M4LChooser object to clipaudio @observe 1 and got clips to show up. Unfortunately, I don’t think parameter is right for the clip params as I don’t see anything when I try and list them. Looking at M4L.chooser.js I see:

parameter : { fun: iterate_parameters_for_id, name: "Parameter", container: ["parameters", "mixer_device\\s+\\S+"] },

which at a quick read feels specific to device parameters… Not sure what the right clipaudio container is though. :thinking:

#20

I guess a solution could be to have the device spit out CCs instead of working with Live’s API. Then you could simply MIDI map those parameters. Would take some internal MIDI routing …

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#21

I hope i didn’t write to quick that i could do it. I’m totally unable to do javascript. But i’ll take a try for sure !

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#22

@chapelierfou: No worries and really thanks for your interest.

Before you dig in though, I’ve had a sort of embarrassing realization. The reason I would like this feature is because I’d like to record some automation envelopes where I’m using the arc to detune a clip sample (and get a Transpose envelope as a result). However, it looks to me like you can’t record automation of clip sample parameters at all? I assumed you could but haven’t been able to. (I can draw envelopes using breakpoints in the Envelopes Box in the Clip View but can’t seem to record interactions with the detune or transpose controls.)

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It seems like this just may not be possible? :confused:

This is a great idea. Probably not a way to solve the problem as I posed it since I don’t think even MIDI can be mapped to control of sample detune (happy to be wrong about that though!) but it would be great for another approach where I capture detune info in a midi stream as pitch bend messages. Maybe a variation on knobs, updated to not require push buttons? Otherwise, it’d be really neat if your patch could optionally map to midi CCs. That would make it super flexible. (And the UX is really great BTW!) @chapelierfou: if you’re looking to play with this patch, maybe that’s a more fruitful angle? (No pressure obviously!)

Thanks a million to you both for the ideas so far and in advance for any more!

CV recorder in Max
#23

@ppqq updated device in attachment. in order to make this work you have to:

  • create an IAC driver
  • activate ‘track’ and ‘remote’ in Ableton’s MIDI settings for both the input and output of the IAC driver
  • put the device on a MIDI track
  • select the IAC driver you created as ‘MIDI To’ for the track on which the device resides
  • open midi map mode
  • select parameter
  • turn a knob on the arc
  • close midi map mode
    -> you should be able to control the parameter with your arc

I added toggle and momentary function to the push-simulation. see info on how to set it up.

Let me know how it works for you

ArcM4L_AMT.amxd (1.5 MB)

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