#83

Ah, now I understand, when recording in the arranger view it actually does record the full audio clip but it sets it up as a loop for playback purposes. If you extend the length it’s all there. :slight_smile:

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#84

If you’re wrestling with Bitwig, I can highly recommend the Thavius Beck video courses on ask.video. Yes, they cost a little money, but they’re very efficient. I still refer to them from time to time.

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#85

Thanks for the recommendation! I think I’m past the initial hurdles at this point but I will keep it in mind. There’s a lot here to master.

Bitwig’s own website recommends so many different places to start, that it was itself intimidating :laughing: But I’ve been finding Brian Bollman’s “Migrating to Bitwig Studio” series helpful for a start.

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#86

Now that I’m at least part of the way through the looking glass, I think the Bitwig folks have made a mistake in not taking on education directly. The Bitwig site is confusing as hell. The “Learning” page is buried under “community” (WTF?) and the links presented there are not curated in any kind of sensible manner. There’s simply no clear or direct avenue to learn the software, and this is definitely not figure-it-out-yourself-ware. At the very least, it seems like poor marketing, and I cannot believe it’s not costing them a lot of sales.

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#87

Yeah I agree.

I’ve been looking at the demo and dabbling on and off over the past 6 months or more and am fairly daunted by the amount that’s going on in there.

I guess one of the challenges is that you can use a modern DAW many ways. But yeah I don’t think they’re doing themselves any favours.

#88

I highly, highly recommend those Thavius Beck video courses. Don’t hesitate to spend the money on them, they’re the quickest way to get up to speed and know what you’re doing. There’s even a new-ish one on the Grid.

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#89

It’s likely a question of resources: according to Linkedin, Bitwig has less than 50 employees, Ableton has at least 500…

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#90

With two glowing recommendations here and one elsewhere I went ahead and paid for the beginner course along with my license.

I’ll worry about the Grid later once I’m feeling comfortable with all the rest :slight_smile:

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#91

With your existing familiarity with modular synthesis, you won’t need much help with the Grid.

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#92

Yep, tbh, even just the first 101 course was more than enough to get me rolling.

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#93

I’ve got to say I’m really impressed with Bitwig, and glad I decided to switch.

Messing with the Grid for the first time today, I built the 16n-controlled additive oscillator that I was wanting in Eurorack. And I hooked up an audio input so I could phase modulate it from Hertz Donut. Whoa.

I may have to think hard about going for an ES-8 or a ES-3 + ES-6 combo. I could use a few extra inputs anyway, and having CV I/O with Bitwig to go with the Grid sounds like a pretty fantastic idea to me.

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#94

Integrating Eurorack and Bitwig via the ES-8 is a really great combo!

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#95

… unless you’ve got ADAT channels sitting around already on your interface, in which case the ES-3/ES-6 combo is recommended and cheaper. Keep an eye on the used market.

In either case, there’s zero configuration to do with either the ES-3/6 or ES-8, and little to do on the computer side. “It just works.” Pretty cool.

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#96

I didn’t mean to say that the ES-3/6 combo wasn’t an option, I was using ES-8 generically. However i ended up choosing the 8 over the 3/6 combo because it’s smaller, and more flexible (ADAT in the studio, USB for live). I got it used for a good price as well, so wasn’t much more expensive

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#97

Good points. The only tradeoffs are a couple channels and the need to aggregate the ES-8 with your other interfaces.

I really would like to see ES make a single, dense module that tidily collects the ES-3, ES-6 and ES-7 together in 10-12 HP.

#98

ES-8 has ADAT in and out, in addition to USB, so you don’t necessarily need to aggregate audio interfaces. Really flexible.

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#99

So… have you seen the ES-9?

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#100

Also, I was wondering if anyone’s ever tried Bitwig on a Linux compatible Chromebook; I’ve been contemplating an ASUS C434, and I figured a lighter rig with touch could be nice to use with it.

#101

Indeed I have. The ES-9 looks to be an excellent option for many folks and situations. If it had existed a couple months earlier, I might have gone with that instead of buying a new interface. Now, I don’t need the USB interface or the output stage, just a tidy ADAT package, so I’d rather have a smaller ES-3/ES-6 combo module.

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#102

If it had been announced one week earlier I’d have held out for the ES-9.

It’s the same HP as the ES-3 + ES-6 + the 4HP of mults I’m already using as a bridge to my UMC1820, and a little cheaper too.

I’d miss having a dedicated knob and mute for the main monitors like I do now, though.

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