I thought I’d chime in and say that there is life after Ableton. I’ve been a user since version 1.5 as well, I registered my Ableton account in March of 2003, and I just sold my Suite 10 license last weekend. I was really close to getting Bitwig but ended up putting it on hold for now and I bought Reaper, a Make Noise Maths, and a uBurst instead. :slight_smile:

After maybe 15 years with mostly the one toolset I bought a Bitwig licence 2 weeks ago and have been going deeper. I work all ITB and am finding it thoroughly enjoyable and inspiring so far.

So far I’ve been enjoying playing with modulating parameters of MIDI fx (what they call note fx) to gently introduce unpredictable but non-random changes to progressions. Early days though. I haven’t even touched the grid.

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So far, my first gripe with Bitwig is that the interface for drawing automation is somehow clunkier than it was on Logic.

I’d like to send multiple MIDI parts (different lengths) to one VST synth. Can anyone help with options for doing this? I’ve done a search on the web and not really got it.

I’ve done this kind of thing before - the outcome I’m looking for is sending a series of sparse note patterns of different lengths to one mono synth, so that it creates a hard-to-predict but not random sequence.

The way I would do this in another DAW is have multiple instrument tracks with their own MIDI clips, and, if the VST is on track 1, send MIDI from the other tracks to track 1. I wonder if some option among the modulators would do this, but I haven’t found it yet.

There might also be some completely different way to achieve the same result. Some of the note FX seem to generate note data and maybe even in sequence, so perhaps stacking those up on one track after the synth VST would achieve the same result?

Oh right, I’ve figured it out - you can put multiple Note Receivers before the device and receive the MIDI from the other channels that way. Load the clips into a scene and each loops in happy polymeter…

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Should work fine if it’s Ubuntu 17.04 or later. Bitwig loaded on mine running 14.04 but couldn’t produce sound, think i got “cannot activate audio engine.”

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Good to know. That is with a C434, correct? I’m very curious to try some of the touch functionality, though I have seen that it can be a bit finicky using long touch and such.

No, my laptop is an Acer C720, non-touch.

The Bitwig v3.1 beta that is out right now includes a new micro-pitch note effect. It’s everything anyone interested in non-equal-temperament tunings has been waiting for (in my opinion). Ableton still doesn’t have one of these right? It can load scala files and everything. The only limitation is a 12 note octave but otherwise it’s very cool.

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Hi all
I’ve done a bit of googling around to no avail but perhaps it’s a matter of specific naming conventions of which I am unaware.

I’m wondering if anyone knows whether there is an API/SDK for creating grid objects (similar to max/pd externals)(or maybe plans for it in the future)?

It would make bitwig very very enticing as an all-in-one solution for a dedicated linux music computer.

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i thought the same thing, something like audulus or some kind of design system
until they choose that i am waiting and working with Max

currently there is no exposed api or programmatic access to the grid (not sure about plans for the future)

Having not really got into the Grid I found this pretty useful, and definitely the playlist of generative vids he mentions at the start. (Thanks @jasonw22 for sharing this elsewhere)

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This might be a very common DAW trick, but I’ve been having a lot of fun recording new MIDI clips based on big chains of note FX mangling my original idea… a nice mix of random and controlled

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I so want to go all bitwig - I’ve never liked ableton really and I’ll always use logic for various things but bitwig I’m super creative in and I love pretty much everything about it

BUT

Crow, all the new stuff - seems there’s a lot of max for live power. Could that be ported to bitwig in max but in bitwig containers? I understand the GUI limitations of this I think but if anyone is using and leaning heavily on grid/crow/Jf - II essentially

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I would love to know if this is possible somehow too. Was happily all-in on Bitwig until Crow rocked my world, and now I’m splitting my time awkwardly between Bitwig and Ableton.

This seems like a pretty nice enhancement to Bitwig. Didn’t see it reported anywhere - just found it buried in the feature notes of this subrelease beta.

Changes in Bitwig Studio 3.1, Beta 5
New features

Interactive Help is now available for all 93 devices, 33 modulators, and 160 Grid modules

So the really nifty built-in help for Grid modules is now available for everything in Bitwig, basically.

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Interactive Help was added with the advent of the Grid and they’ve since added it to everything which is stellar.

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Here’s a quick video on how the interactive help works, by the way - it’s probably the most user-friendly thing I’ve ever seen in a DAW.

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There’s a Bitwig chat on Discord, if that’s of interest. There’s a link from this Bitwig community site.

So far I’ve found it to be a mix of too deep for my knowledge and too far from my interests. :sweat_smile: But there are a lot of presets and demo videos being shared.

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