It’s not really designed for piezos, the impedance mismatch is quite large, but if you dime the input gain it’s usable in a spitty noisy kinda way! (Just the way I like it)

That’s what the buffers are for, though. :slightly_smiling_face:

The Bugbrand stuff’s pretty great for concrete treatments. I just scored a used PEQ and Crossover Filter, and look forward messing with those.

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this is really cool! thanks for sharing :—)

We like to have fun here.

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I stole a little time over lunch with the BugBrand modules and effects. I never fail to be impressed by the quality of Tom’s designs, how musical they sound and how playable they are. It’s not quite the “modulate everything” experience that my Serge stuff is, but I like having some stuff to approach differently,

https://vimeo.com/357632533

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I’m looking into the idea of ordering a 2 frame-system from Tom. A synth voice and a couple of other modules. Can’t afford to fill up the other rack just yet and I’m wondering, what should I get? What’s a good starter synth voice+ system?

I’ve almost exclusivy used semi-modulars before, so this would be my first attempt of starting to build an instrument of my own.

Can’t go wrong with the DDSR + SynthVoice. That along opens up a lot of sequencing possibilities. I’d also look into the Binary Block Voltage, it’s a clever non-linear sequencer. I would suggest the logic module alongside the BBV, or the clock divider. That or get a chirper, seems pretty powerful on it’s own so I imagine it would pair well with the Synthvoice. Really depends on the direction of your work but I’d start there. You could always get something like a BeatStep Pro with the Synthvoice as well, but I think the new clock modules he’s creating are amazing. The Synthvoice is really incredible on it’s own too, especially if you get outside of the subtractive mode of patching with it.

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I’ve got just the Synth Voice atm, which I pair with an SQ-1/Keystep for sequencing (works as expected) and sometimes a couple Ciat-Lonbarde instruments (kinda mixed bag). To answer your question, I think when I’m ready to expand to a 2-frame, I’ll definitely want at least one of the new LPG’s, as the two VCA’s in the SV get used up pretty quickly most of the time.

Yeah, I’ll echo @ntrncr on the DDSR. It’s a really amazing shift register that’s great for sequences, modulation, random cv …

You could also look at mixing in some red modules… I know Tom sees them as completely separate, but you can’t go wrong with a DRM2 or PTDelay to complement the Synth Voice.

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Having started modular with a synthvoice coming from a semi modular standalone box setup myself, I think the synthvoice alone provides a ton of options for that kind of Lorre mill / ciat Lonbarde hands on approach to patching and performing. There’s a lot there to get to grips with as a system.
Down the line as I expanded - I actually got rid of my ddsr after I realised it was frustrating me to have something so difficult to repeat perform as a main control interface. It’s also a pricey component to the system. If you still have a double knot you can use it with the bugs in a very similar way.
My vote would go towards a couple of dividers and logic, a LPG for the third oscillator and then see how you go with more things coming out in the future (blue pt delay, s+h, other fx etc). Dividers provide nice rhythmic playability especially when paired with logic and utilising the reset inputs, division B clock source switches etc. Also great for harmonic layering into the wavefolder side of the dual amplifier. LPG is a completely different texture to the dual filter and amplifier modules, more gritty.

I also didn’t get on with a red/blue combo system. The pt delay is actually great in there because it’s so playable and sounds ace, but the drm2 was too complex and demanding to be tweaked itself that I found it impossible to focus on a blue modular patch and interesting drm2 activity at the same time. I also didn’t like that the reds took up so much real estate in my modular frame.

Just my two cents obviously. I like keeping blues with blues and reds elsewhere. Also everyone else loves the ddsr so I’m a bit weird there!

in case not everyone caught this, divkid released a really awesome interview with Tom Bugs a few days ago…

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I’ve got a slightly expanded two frames (strapped a PT Delay and Crossover Filter to the end of each frame). Although it’s big, I’ve found the Chirper to be a really excellent addition - I keep looking at it thinking I could fit 3-5 blues (I do often feel a few more VCAs would be useful, as mentioned above) in that space but always end up using it as, with some creative thinking, it’s far more than just a weird noise maker, especially in conjunction with the standard SV modules.
DDSR is also really useful, so many applications I think I could use two sometimes. Tom also has a matrix mixer in the works which I personally think would really open up the SV.

Stupid question here: on the chirper - if I would take the OSC2 out and banana it to the ext mod of OSC1 I would get FM, correct?

Plus, I am not sure what to get as my first BugBrand stand alone device - the CHIRPER or the DRM2

I also have a LM Mosstone - so SH and Noise could be delivered by it as a MOD source for the CHIRPER and also back into its VCA if I need one - so with that setup I would somehow be able to emulate a DRM2 or am I completely wrong?

(…of course the bend circuit is missing…)

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Yeah, or just turn the knob that says ‘Int. Mod Osc 1 / Int. Mod Osc 2’

Lorre Mill and BugBrand play fairly nice, but the CV ranges on each one differ. You would need to be careful to not damage the KM as the BugBrand voltage range is much higher.

You can go wrong with the Chirper or the DRM2, though the latter really requires a controller or sequencer of some sort to get the most out of it, Chirper is immediately fun!

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wow - thank you so much for your help! intuitively I ordered the chirper already :slight_smile:

…but if I just use the OUTs of the KM to the CHIRPERs INs I would not have any problems, correct? thanks!

That’s correct! No worries re: outs from KM to Chirpers inputs. :+1:t2:

…got my DRM2 today :slight_smile: and I love it very much - but I am trying to get a snare done with it and I failed so far - I am used to mix noise as a source into a VCF or VCA and I try to understand the Noise --> OSC Int Mod and BEND Env Mod ratio on the DRM2 but I don’t get it so far… I would like to ask if someone of you experts can help me there or give me a hint / idea how to do that on the DRM2… thanks a lot…

Lots of ways to skin that cat. Keep the oscillator as plain or with a touch of bend, use the noise to modulate the filter cutoff in lpf mode with a high cutoff point and use resonance to dial in the noise amount, and sweep it down as well with the bend envelope too if that’s your bag.
Dial in noise to oscillator frequency mod so you can still discern a pitch but still hear the noise and filter sweep with the bend.
Use a banana to Jack converter and patch the noise mod out into the audio input to get a mix between that and the oscillator.

Wow - thanks! I will try that as soon as I am home again :slight_smile:

But this I can’t try as I don’t have a cable/converter like that - also, I don’t get it - you mentioned “to get a mix between that and the oscillator.” isn’t the filter source switch either/or? That is at least what the manual says:
“The Source switch selects the filter input between Osc or Ext (preamp) or it can be
set to centre-off for no input”