#41

i’m sorry to be asking questions about discourse, but i just don’t have time to look this stuff up myself.

is there a way for the moderators to define a fixed set of tags that then users can choose from?

what i typically hate about tags is maintenance, ie TT vs tt vs teletype vs Teletype

#42

You can set a trust level for new tag creation.

#43

slightly different styling though, the font for tags there is grey. also i have a feeling we will have more cases with multiple tags, but this is just a guess, of course.

#44

Yeah, the styling is very much under the control of site administrators.

Here’s a wildly different looking Discourse site.
https://forum.bela.io/

#45

was checking what settings are available for tags and looks like you can subscribe based on tags too - neat!

on a related note, i’m not seeing “Automatically unpin topics when I reach the bottom” option under my profile / interface menu - am i looking in a wrong place?

#46

It’s gone for me too. Because there’s a default now, I’m guessing it’s been removed as a choice. Not what I would have expected.

Agreed. I played around a bit with tags here, the tag maintenance page for discourse is pretty powerful. I get the impression the discourse developers share your feelings.

The piece that I like about tags is the url filtering, https://meta.discourse.org/tags/c/dev/translations/pr-welcome is a pretty url IMO. It’ll make it easy for us to link to slices of content that cut across multiple threads.

Agreed. I’m happy to start editing titles once we’ve all agreed on moving in the tag direction.

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#47

I quiet like this as an example. Some basic categories per device and then some tags to easily identify some high level differences between the topics. This could relatively easily be matched to lines I guess (categories like teletype, aleph, grid, maybe software and hardware and tags like development and support)

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#48

I’m going to disagree here. If I can’t hide all topics tagged ‘Teletype’ then I certainly want to know that a thread is a teletype thread at the top-level so I don’t waste my time clicking into it. From my perspective, the primary purpose of categorization is to be able to customize what content you see – the default view is everything so it makes sense to be able to cut pieces away from that, so you’re only seeing the interesting-to-you content.

I have the Trade category hidden personally, and I can certainly see someone wanting to hide Teletype. There’s so many other things to read / discuss here!

#49

yes, but my point was that if we use categories/tags there is no need to also use titles for categorization. similarly, if i look at teletype category i don’t want to see “teletype” in the title, it’s redundant.

and visually filtering things out is not all that efficient. imagine if all trade posts started with (Trade).

#50

Agreed, however there was discussion above that any ‘tag’ would be hidden in the main view. I agree that I don’t want the main page cluttered with additional tags. Presently the ‘(Teletype)’ prefix is in essence tagging / categorizing. I would like to be able to hide things that do/would currently use that prefix.

I think these is a number of separate issues we’re talking about at once. My main point is that I want to be able to hide posts with whatever marking mechanism we choose.

At a guess I’d say most people view the forum as one continuous stream of posts - most don’t view categories one at a time. This cohesive view is something I like about Lines (there isn’t sub-forums), but there are things I’m not interested in, and as it becomes a busier place, there is going to be increasingly more that I want to hide in order to keep it a fun and manageable addiction.

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#51

The model that Discourse uses is a little different. You don’t use tags to “cut away” so much as “focus in”. People have requested the feature to be able to exclude tags from an advanced search, but it hasn’t been addressed yet.

Edit: I suppose muting is a way to “cut away” but it only removes the category/tag from the Unread view (you still see the whole firehose in the default view).

#52

i think we agreeing on the need to filter things out. i’m sure folks not interested in development are noticing the increased number of dev threads and would likely prefer to filter them out. but using titles as a mechanism for this is not really usable, unless there was a way to mute based on a title substring.

and as a developer, i would also prefer an easier way to find all the threads that are related to teletype dev, for instance. tags/categories is a better way to achieve both of these goals.

i’m a bit confused how hiding tags in the main view related to this though? i guess one thing to consider is if the tags aren’t shown then you have to explicitly mute them in your preferences, as opposed to being able to just click on a tag and mute, but you could still do that just by clicking on the thread, finding the appropriate tag and muting that.

#53

Posted a new topic in dev and tried out tags. I added a “teletype” tag. I dropped (Teletype) from the title because the tag shows up right underneath it. How do you all like the format with tags?

EDIT: I removed the (Teletype) but I subconsciously typed TT. That’s weird. I guess it felt strange to write a title that didn’t include Teletype in it, even though I knew I was going to use the tag. Strange. Anyway, you can also see how the tag listing looks if you haven’t seen it before. That link is a list of all posts tagged teletype.

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#54

I guess (or expect) people are busy with other (new) things…
but I just wondered about the available tags… tt, of course…
wouldn’t it make sense to also make an aleph tag?
I’m not proposing a tag for every product, but this seems sensible.
or is this just the test phase and it still has to be decided on later… because… new things…

edit: new thing tag anyone?

#55

just occurred to me - grid tag for library posts ? would that make sense ?