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Is there a TouchOSC template for Cheat Codes 2? Where can I download it?
I don’t have a Grids, but I want to try Cheat Codes with my Ipad Mini.
Thanks!

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Hey Pepe, fellow spaniard here,

I’m updating the layouts myself, so far I started with the iPhone (mobile) layout and it’s not finished as I want it to be, I still want to re consider what controls are best to have at hand. There’s tabs but I don’t want to overdo it. If you can’t wait for it to finish, you can start playing with this around.
The idea would be something like this, plus a dedicated DELAY tab.
CC2_iPhone_test.touchosc (4.5 KB)

You can add it to you iPad Mini, but it’s not the ideal proportions unless is an iPhone 8 Plus :sweat_smile:

I don’t want to go over everything and explain since this is a beta, but basically rates on LOOPS affects all the pads, and in PADS the target is per pad. There’s some exceptions but you can experiment yourself. Sel x2, Sel ½ and rand pan are meant to be hold and press pads of ANY bank to change them.

Again, this layout will change, and I will make the iPad (tablet) size layout soon as well.
I’m currently discussing with Dan some parameters that I would like to have but I can’t address.

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Gracias Carlos!

I have not tried Cheat Codes 2 yet. But I am going to try it with your touchosc template. Thanks for your work!

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Hi there,
I am new with the Norns, but I hope I can help adding something in the future.
I come from the “classical” music (I hate this definition) as I am proffesional violinist and I want to experiment about the boundarys of old and new.
Hope you don’t mind I sahe my first steps w/ you all as I am very very very excited to start this path in Norns and Cheat Codes:

I tried to attach the wav file just in case it was usefull for someone but as I am new, the system does not allow to do so. If anyone want it, please ask me and I try to set a 7 days wetransfer link or something.

Happy holidays!
Stay safe

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SO kind!
Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:
Can’t wait to learn from this community

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amazing performance
thanks for sharing!

Sí claro

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7 days available to download. Op.2 “Variaciones sobre un tema de Juan del Encina” (Just add that it is variations over an spanish XV siecle composing) : https://we.tl/t-yLt8wwSB4V
:slightly_smiling_face:

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great stuff! just listened to the whole performance and it inspired me to play with the wav you linked! if anything comes of it ill let you know! like @MatthewAshmore, if youd like to upload more violin samples I’d be happy to use them!!

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welcome to the party!
:slight_smile:
also…
i absolutely understand your “classical” world disposition…
my bandmate and i are both classically trained and this is the noiz we create:

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Thanks so much for the midi implementation :purple_heart: still waiting on a softstep 2 and I’m looking forward to experimenting with setting up some hands-free looping.

On that note: Is there a way to midi map screen changes? It is really helpful to see the waveform for me and I’d love to be able to switch between the screens without having to fiddle with the knobs when doing live looping. Same goes with switching templates on the MFT. I think the dream would be to hit a footswitch and have the screen on norns and the MFT switch to the corresponding bank.

So much appreciation for this beautiful beautiful tool and all the care and creativity that has gone into it.

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I also find myself switching between the timing page and waveform page very frequently. Mainly because I’m trying to feel the tempo by watching the counter in the timing page, and then checking to see that my audio is filling the buffer once I start recording. It would be cool if the visual met was also on the looper page, or if the timing page indicated when you were recording into a buffer (maybe I didn’t see it). Sometimes I’ll record when I expect to, and sometimes I’ll get a count in/pre record because I’m metronomeless without a computer.
Doing tempo sensitive live looping stuff is way tighter using link and ableton for me because I can hear the ableton met and I don’t have an auditory metronome from shields. So in that case I can watch the record head on the loops page and make sure I know where the 1 is recording into the buffer relative to the met. But also like using cheat codes 2 computerless because it is so powerful on its own. Ive been practicing doing more live looper stuff with it not connected to ableton.

Really excited to try using midi output to trigger some visuals.

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Maybe I’m missing something, but I’m on Norns Shield and latest release of Cheat Codes 2 and I can’t get the rate on the delays page to go above -1. Turning E3 just gives me larger negative values for rate, up to -24. Happens in clocked and free delay modes. Any ideas? I’m a bit stumped.

Edit: figured that out…but I’m not getting any audio going into the delay buffer, even with feedback way up (97%) on both channels, with the send all the way up

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i’ve been gone for a few days (moving from chicago → catskills) and holy moly, there’s been so much great energy here! thank y’all :slight_smile:

@Alicia, absolutely compelling – thank you for sharing this and for incorporating cheat codes into your process :sparkles: just downloaded the file, thank you for making it available – can’t wait to see what you do next with norns!!

this could be totally approachable as a local mod. i’ll set some time aside on monday to mock up a quick example :cowboy_hat_face:

makes total sense + definitely doable. i’ll make sure this gets into the next release, thank you for the FR!

i’m curious – for a tempo-sensitive live looping situation where there isn’t another metronome, would it also be helpful to have a bit more control over the transport? i’m thinking specifically how ableton live allows the transport to start when either an audio or midi clip begins recording – so maybe you could put the cheat codes transport into a dormant state, then based on whether “Start Playback with Record” is enabled, then either starting a one-shot audio recording or grid key pattern recorder would kickstart the transport?

hmm – is the send in this case the in or main output level? both need to be > 0 in order for the audio to enter into the delay line and for the delay line to come back into the main mix.

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lmk how I can help! :slight_smile:

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I just want to take a moment to point out how wild and amazing it is that I just printed out a 51 page manual for this script. Thank you Dan for this huge and continued effort (and for all the others that made it possible).

Here’s to 2021.

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For me, this would definitely help me keep track of where I am in the buffer. Helps me keep track of where “1” is in relation to the buffer.

Thank you for being so flexible and inclusive with this script. It has so many uses. The delay page is epic. I love fiddling with rate and then touching the octave buttons and then turning up the feedback to make a kind of infinite arpeggio or pad.

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somebody asked me recently whether they can still use arps in some way w/o grid or midi keyboard

might seem obvious but this is so deep I wanted to check for sure, alt controls might be buried in here somewhere

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@dani_derks
Wow wow wow!
I’m absolutely loving CC2. The combination of JF and midi control on top of chopping live audio is giving me so much joy.
What a way to start the new year!!!

Everyday I’m learning new things.
One thing I can’t seem to figure out, or maybe it isn’t possible yet, is when you have played in a pattern and have it quantised to the clock, can’t you set divisions or multiplications Per pattern?
I’d love to be able to play in a pattern and then slow it down or speed it up like it’s on the Arp settings page.

Oh a side note I’ve experienced a few lock ups after a very long time running it. 4hrs or so and it’ll freeze.

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(days are nearly back to normal, thanks for the patience y’all!)

arps depend on some external selection mechanism, so there wouldn’t be a direct way to feed arps from norns only. however, if the effect they’re looking for is a steady sequence of notes that they can control, that’s where [euclid] comes in :slight_smile: you can get to some really nice arp-like territory by:

  • set euclid’s k and n to the same number to get steady steps (or just use the euclidean rhythms)
  • hold K1 and use E2 set the mode to span, which will fire off the pad associated with the tick number
  • press K3 to swing over to the right side of the screen
  • hold K1 and use E3 to set an auto pad ID offset (+/-) to any number and the pad associated with the tick number will auto-advance

in total, the effect of k = 3, n = 3, span, and +/- offset = -4 will be like:

  • pads 1,2,3
  • pads 13,14,15
  • pads 9,10,11
  • pads 5,6,7
  • pads 1,2,3
  • <> repeats pattern <>

you can also set the rate of the sequence by holding K1 when setting the mode from single to span:

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thank you for the kind words @cosmicsoundexplorer, much appreciated! your capture on IG the other day was :100::fire::sparkling_heart:

just not possible yet – the first heavy order of business when i’m back with the script is rewriting the pattern recording function, so this is definitely on the roadmap :sparkles:

re: freezes after 4 hours (wild!), if you can provide any logs from maiden (the norns core devs are also working on building out more robust logging), that’d be awesome. otherwise, i’ve not run into that during my own use, but will keep an eye out :slight_smile:

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i figured

excellent description dan
will share with em

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20 characters of :raised_hands: