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i’d like to get beta testing on cheat codes yellow started in the next two weeks, so i’ll be sure to hit you up :slight_smile:

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!!Yes!! Thanks for that. I was just going to ask how I to …

EDIT: Mmh. To early, my rejoicing. I really have no idea how to set this up (I do know how to midi map parameters but I don’t know how to make use of the ‘MFT mode’) and didn’t find anything here either. I’d be grateful for some hints…

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twenty characters of hell yes please!!

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humbly paging @MentalSandal for the assist on this, as I don’t have an EC4 myself :slight_smile:

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Oh yes, thanks, I will.

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I cannot help completely, but how far I got:
In the midi encoder settings, I chose the EC4, enabled midi echo to make sure that the states get pushed, if you choose an empty set up on your ec4, grp1 is midichannel 1, so it works with bank A, grp2 is midichannel 2, so it works with bank B, …grp 3, channel 3, bank c.
However I find that I can change the values but once I hit the max (eg pad 16 or cutoff fully open) of an encoder, I cannot dial back to negative values. I need to see if there are special settings in the midi twister template if I can open it without the actual hardware and then see if there is something else to the settings /EDIT: cannot open anything in the editor without the hardware… ) but maybe I am only getting some oddness due to some conflict with the ec4 which I previously mapped to some macros, maybe I need to delete my pset.

So, if anyone can send a screenshot of the mfs template settings, it might help, if not, I probably will delete my pset and see if I get the expected behaviour then.

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That sounds very musical I haven’t even thought to try that.

So so thankful to be considered :pray: very grateful for cheat codes 2 support for 64 and arc 2. It is absolutely beautiful and inspiring.

Cheat codes yellow :star_struck: it’s gunna do my taxes for me.

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Thanks! I will check this out.

Recently I also mapped some of the params to try out EC4 with CC and there was also some weird stuff going on - quite similar to what you are describing (values going up even if I turned the encoder backwards). I’ll post as soon as I have any results worthwhile to report…

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Ah, ok, never had that issue before. So, maybe try with midi enc setting and see if it just works for you.
In the end, I might just delete my pset tomorrow and try to see if it helps and then also do a template with “labels” for the EC4 which is the nicest thing about it. :slight_smile:

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Thanks for this update Dan, so excited to try it out!

Here is the template to send to the EC4, it contains the midi mappings that correspond to the MFT.
cc2.syx (179.4 KB)

Edit:
Warning: sending sysex templates to the EC4 will replace all your existing setups.
Please backup your templates before, and if you’d like to append this setup to your configuration, the manual way is probably best. Page 2 and 3 have the same mappings, except page 2 goes from CC 16 to 31 and page 3 CC 32 to 47.

The EC4 should be detected automatically by CC2, if the MFT mode is enabled, no need to add any midi mapping to your Norns.

It’s setup like this:

ec4_mapping
ec4_mapping800×915 166 KB

As you can see, it’s similar to the MFT layout. But because this controller can’t send push and turn values simultaneously, I had to add 2 buttons on the bottom left: Focus and Shift.

If you press Focus + and turn encoder Pad1 (first encoder of the first row), you can scan through each pad in focus mode, like on the grid.
If you press Shift and turn any other encoder with a secondary function (like Bank filter cutoff/Pad filter cutoff), you will be able to modify that secondary function. It’s worth mentionning that you should be able to use shift mode while in focus mode too, but that’s a kind of a 2 handed combo :smiley:

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Thanks! This works very well.

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Hey @MentalSandal,

I did not yet manage to load your CC midi file without overwriting all my other setups and groups. I can send and save a single FF group but as soon as I receive a sysex file (I am using SysEx Librarian on MacOS) I loaded you CC setup and have deleted all other setups on FF.

I could not find any information in the Faderfox manual how to do this. Can you possibly help?

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@mbutz I’m really sorry to hear it’s been overwriting your mappings, I hope it didn’t cause you too much trouble :frowning:

I’ve never imported templates on my EC4 so I wasn’t aware of this.
Have you tried the online editor? Faderfox EC4 Editor
I think it lets you choose where/what you want to import/export.

IIRC I’ve only exported one setup (SE01) containing the 3 groups necessary. If your mappings were on this setup, then this would explain why they got wiped.
Do you have any backups you could send on a different setup page?

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Hi, thanks for getting back to me. No need to be sorry. I have a backup so nothing is lost.

I will try the online editor. (It should be possible, right?)

If I won’t succeed I will try to to contact Mathias from FF; he is very helpfull…

EDIT: Ooops, the online editor explicitly warns: “Warning: Sending the editor data overwrites all setups on the EC4.”

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I’m glad you didn’t lose anything! Thanks for flagging, I have edited my post to include a warning :slight_smile:

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Hi,

it seems to work the following way:

  1. Open the online editor and connect to FaderFox.
  2. Make sure the setup no. 1 is available resp. can be overwritten.
  3. Load file cc2.sysx (which will occupy setup no. 1) .
  4. Import only setup no. 1 when asked by the editor what to import.
  5. Send data (i. e. all setups) to FaderFox.
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Hi Dan, still enjoying this great new feature :sun_with_face: Does the fade feature also works when you randomise rates ? When I randomise rates I sometimes get a lot of clicks even when fade is time is turned to the max. Of course most often when I work with more pure waveforms like sines etc.

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super glad to hear it!

it ought to – there’s nothing in the code which resets the fade time when randomizing rates. if you can provide a sample, happy to test on my side!

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hi, I’m new to using cc2 and loving messing with it but I’m having a problem with the “timing” screen, I seem unable to record patterns. I’ve set the rec mode to “bars” and set my number of bars but in the docs it says to press K3 on the “rec mode” option to start recording and this isn’t working for me, nothing happens. This is the case both on a completely fresh cheat codes 2 and also if I already have some stuff in my session. Any idea why or what I’m doing wrong?

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hi hi! hope all’s well :slight_smile:

this is just for MIDI-only setups. if you’re using a grid, this isn’t relevant information, apologies – just hit the top-most key in the right-angle glyph (this entire structure is known as a ‘zilchmo’ in cc-land). if you’re using the TouchOSC template, there’s a pat rec key in the template.
plz lemme know if there’s anything else you’re running into snags with!