iirc that has always been a problem, even under macos8

I did the same. Got the demo, blew my young mind, but couldn’t afford it back then. By the time I had the means, there were already a host of plugins and other software to keep me distracted. My nostalgia is pulling me back towards it though.

The little you did use it, would you say it was worthwhile? I’m mostly thinking how would it compare to say something like Iris 2 or something similar.

Nice! From Mr. Handmade Electronics. Love that book. Thanks!

The little you did use it, would you say it was worthwhile? I’m mostly thinking how would it compare to say something like Iris 2 or something similar.

I don’t know what Iris 2 even is and basically never use desktop software for music by and large, so I don’t have much to advise sorry. Last time I had a proper go with it, I remember observing that it would be much better for loop-based music + weird techno etc than for the freeform noise I’m generally going for :slight_smile: But now I have more ‘music’ centric sideprojects, and hardware like Norns and DS + ipad apps to mess with sampled/loop material, I think it will be of more use to me when I get it up and running again

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Iris 2 is purely for sound design. It’s meant to be played with a keyboard. Meta synth can do that but it can also be used to arrange entire songs, so in that way it bears more of a resemblance to Xenakis’s UPIC. A cross platform version of this type synaesthetic synth is ANS.

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Much obliged!

The synaesthetic interface and tools for Iris and Metasynth is something I gel with a lot better than most hardware riffing interfaces. For whatever reason, I work faster in it. I’ve heard of the legendary ANS and that’s a fantastic introduction.

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Jumping in this thread cause no one has mentioned Nobuyasu Sakonda’ classic granular 2.5 Max patch

Still available for download!

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and it works fine in Max 8. Lovely.

I don’t know the programs in question, and you probably already know this stuff, but I just wanted to make sure that anyone else who might be new to OS9 (or who’ve moved on and are now using those parts of their brain for something more useful) that you have to manually tell a programme how much memory it can use. Select it in the Finder, use Get Info from the file menu (cmd+I) and set the number as high as you can. That might help.

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Yeah! All vanilla objects :fist:

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I certainly didn’t know this. Very helpful.

Re: the Nobuyasu Sakonda patch: My laptop froze when trying to preview the sine audio file in the folder. All this old gear is fun and all, but my main laptop is from 2012, so I’m starting to get anxious.

Today in the OS9 dungeon:
I got SoundMaker to work, nice little software. Emailed Markus Popp about the password for the SoundMagicFX shareware folder, he says he definitely has it somewhere, but of course it’ll take time to rummage through old machines.

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That looks amazing, thanks for the write up. I’ve got a Quadra 7100 and now I’m ebaying for Samplecell hardware. I’ve currently got a Kurzweil K2000 hooked up via scsi. That works great in Alchemy but it doesn’t integrate with Turbosysnth.

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Has anyone used MacPod?

Has there ever been a round up, compare contrast type of deal, done with all the various software granular synthesis programs? Of course, with this thread, mostly looking towards the older MacOS based programs.

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some of my fav oldies i can remember (mostly little apps):

  • sineqube apps (i already use & love them, funny!)
  • gliko (same as above)
  • rtgs (my first and fav granular app, courtesy of marcel wierckx)
  • twerk standalone apps
  • thonk + macpod
  • soundedit 16
  • cecilia
  • cellsynth
  • all the arboretum stuff, like hyperprism plug-ins
  • argeïphontes lyre

missing them so badly:

  • bias peak pro 2.5

  • sonicworx powerbundle

  • metasynth 2.X + Xx

  • nord modular editor on OS 9.2

    …and toast titanium :slight_smile:

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I’m glad this thread is so alive.

I heard back from Popp this morning and he had already found the password for the Norris shareware plugins. I’ve been playing a bit with the processes, some interesting stuff in there.

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Has anyone gotten turbo synth to work on Sheepshaver? I was curious about it and it fails to launch, sadly.

part of this that I like is that you have these computers that are fixed in time, making them basically a stand alone synth, like a Buchla Touché where they only made a couple of them. they essentially have a unique (forked?) OS. but it takes a totally formless tool and gives it a character, an identity. I was today talking to a friend who used to work at Cycling 74 back in the day and has a mac mini with Logic and all these plugin codes and software regs that he can’t touch cause he’ll never get it back…and the hard drive is starting to fail.

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This is so true. It feels completely different to be off any sort of upgrade path.

Another thing to me is the idea that I’m not done with these tools. I still find the things I can do with my antiques exciting and, well, new. OK, maybe not new, maybe there’s a lot of nostalgia involved. But exciting, definitely.

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What’s interesting is that, according to the narrative of ever-improving consumer technology, everything in this thread should be totally obsolete and easily recreated with whatever modern DAW you have to hand. But clearly that’s not the case, because here we all are.

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