Coffee thought talk process


#201

hmmm. i almost always do 30g with 510g water.

the grind you mentioned sounds right. i call it “slightly coarser than reg drip” definitely as coarse as french press.

i do not time the pour.

i’ve found any change in method/type involves needed time for taste buds/expectations to adjust. then a aha moment will kick in (for me). but i will say the chemex switch was pretty immediate.

i try for no longer than 15 seconds post grind to start bloom. a 45 sec min bloom. then i slowly and circularly pour the remainder of water in trying to keep color on top consistent.

17/1 is water to coffee ratio

the process you describe sounds like it should be getting you good chemex coffee. except i don’t know about pours that big. i’ve never done that. maybe try starting with half that just to experiment, because obviously bigger water = longer extraction which could very well = bitterness.

just some thoughts.

on my end i can definitely vouch for 30/510. wish i could pour some for you to try and we could experiment and get you settled!! but maybe chemex isn’t your jam just as mokapot isn’t mine? no shame in any of those games!


#202

I wonder if maybe rinsing the filter paper first could help?


#203

It’s a minor thing, but I never had luck using my French press as a frother. We ended up getting a Bodum frother which was worth it to get nearer to coffee shop milk status.

Also, this conversation is tempting me to revisit moka pots. I used one for awhile but never was fully happy with it, so thanks everyone for the tips!


#204

Ha! I was going to say the same thing about @dude, maybe we can be co-presidents?

@emenel It’s going to depend on your water to an extent, but it kind of sounds like there may be either too much water, too little coffee, or too coarse of a grind. What you’re describing seems like under extraction. As @alanza said, definitely rinse the paper filter. A great starting place for a Chemex recipe would be 170g of water for every 12g of coffee, so you’re definitely in the ballpark with what you’ve been working with. 17/1 is what I would start a lot of people off with for more delicate brewing methods (V60, beehouse, wave), but the Chemex can often stand a little more coffee.

I think from there, I would adjust the grind tighter until you’re getting past the bitterness and the flavors are more distinct. This may have a lot more to do with your water than the grind size itself, so I’m thinking that adjusting your grind to suit your water rather than making too many adjustments to the recipe will be helpful. Once you’ve hit on a grind that you get an even extraction from, you can adjust the coffee + water to go after the flavors more directly.

Hope that helps!


#205

Moka pot all the way!

Also, this is amazing in the summer:


#206

Alright, I got my Chemex kit. Can already say that I love the process of making coffee this way. It’s nice and relaxing, and the results are very (!) different from coffee I’ve made so far. In an interesting way. Got myself some beans from Indonesia and Myanmar to start with. My wife gave me a priceless look when she saw me make the first coffee. She already thought I’m nuts. Now it’s worse :wink:


#207

if your your experience is anything like mine, your wife, after tasting your brew results will start to be making her own chemexes in time.

super jazzed you found one and are enjoying digging deeper!!!

we need a chemex emoji


#208

I am italian, and I drink almost only caffè liscio, made with a standard Bialetti and a 100% arabica Illy (I am also very close to the Illy italian family), at least three times a day. I always add some milliliters of milk to my post-launch coffee to drink it macchiato.
No sugar, of course.


#209

I drink coffee the way my grandfather taught me - black as my heart. Approved.


#210

i love this thread, i hope it sticks around! here’s my contribution:

usually, i’ll make myself either a pourover or chemex when at home. unfortunately i’m still using the ugly 1980s blade grinder i have for years, having not splurged on a nice burr one yet (i’m open to suggestions!). occasionally i’ll use a moka pot or a french press (attempting to modify the grind accordingly), but always end up sort of disappointed with the results–the former always too strong unless i drown it in milk, the latter slightly weak and more tea-like. i’ll have to keep experimenting.

as far as beans go, i’m a barista at a coffee truck based out of the ca north bay, so i usually drink whatever roast of their beans they let me take home.

oh, and as far as milk goes, i try to avoid dairy, and i tend to enjoy soy milks the most in my coffee. most almond milk, i’ve found, doesn’t have neutral enough a flavor to fit my liking, and coconut milk… is just bad in coffee most of the time, imo. other good ones: macadamia & oat


#211

:slightly_smiling_face: amish mail order from ohio…,


#212

it sounds like any burr grinder will set you up for a consistency that’d be great for further enjoyment of chemex, pourover and fp and beyond. we’ve had this cheap capresso for years and will gladly go another round once it tanks. burr grind, nice beans and gooseneck kettle all upped my enjoyment game immensely.


#213

I forgot talking about one thing in my previous post: apart from the standard Bialetti, these are two other great italian mokas designed by the GREAT Aldo Rossi that I really recommend to all the coffee and great design lovers:

[Cupola](image https://www.w-esposti.com/1-large_default/la-cupola.jpg)

and [Conica](

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/59c773bb9f745690abb03897/59cac3610cf24eb22e55107b/59cac4970cf24eb22e5536f8/1507554180032/?format=1000w).

Masterpieces.
Ode to the great italian master Aldo Rossi.

https://www.doppiozero.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodo767x/public/aldo_rossi_disegni.jpg?itok=Z49zykNy

Edit: sorry about the wrong format of the message, I’m writing from my smartphone and didn’t manage to correctly add hyperlinks…


#214

trying another natural. Limmu Kossa Estate from sterling. i’ve had good stuff from sterling. i don’t think they are big enough to be sourcing their own beans in terms of direct relationships with farmers so that makes me less likely to buy from them. will report back. have party (another natural) from madcap to compare. i did enjoy first bag of party more than this second one.


#215

ive decided to take sterling off the list. just not up to snuff. but as always, there are some amazing beans from all over. praise xxx