#248

Thanks for the info. I was looking into it yesterday and i obviously completely missed it.
I tried multiplying every beat by 24 and hitting a bang that is triggering a 248 midi message to the midi out but failed badly.
Im going to look into it again!
Thanks :slight_smile:

#249

Thats is great news! How did you patch the audio outs to the es8? Puredata?
Could this be used as a way of interacting automatonism with the es8? I wonder if the audio signals need to be somewhat modified to be compatible between puredata and the es8.

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#250

yes just patch directly in pure data as audio inputs/outputs. I mentioned it on the C&G forum here

sure… my target is Orac integration, but no reason it wouldn’t work with anything else.

audio signals are fine, but when you want to send ‘CV’ signals you will need to scale.

example: (not automatism, as i dont know/use it)
lets say you have a (float) parameter that varies from 0…127, then to send out as an audio signal you need to convert to -1 to 1 (assuming you want bipolar)
so out = ((in / 127) * 2 ) - 1 … so we now get -1 to 1 ,which will give us +/-10v

however, reality is, you might not want a full voltage swing on this… so you might want to scale it back.

of course, pitch we need to be a bit more careful with … since we want v/oct,
given we have -10v to +10v from the ES-8, and its -1 to 1 in PD.
we can see that 1 in PD = 10v , so 0.1 in PD =1v … or 1 octave
so we get something like out = (in / 12 ) / 10

in practice we might want to offset this, depending upon our needs
e.g. mutable instruments plaits v/oct range is -3v to +7v, so it makes sense to offset the voltage by 3v (or 0.3 in PD)

its an interesting area, and actually one Im going to be doing some work on in Orac in next few days, as I want to setup an Organelle-M as a bridge for my Expressive Controllers (soundplane/eigenharp) to Eurorack…

so far, Ive done the low level stuff for the soundpland/eigenharps, and Ive done the proof of concept for the ES8/PD/Orac , just now need to code up the Orac modules for it… and resolve any oddities I find along the way.

note: in my use case, I will be using the ES8 as the only audio interface, I dont need to use the existing organelle-m audio interface… but that should be possible as well, just not tested by me as yet.

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#251

@TheTechnobear thanks a lot for taking the time to explain in depth.
Its great for the community to have people sharing their knowledge like you, thumbs up gracias!

Im going to try with the es8 and the organelle. I have been looking at your mentioned post on the critter & guitarri forum and (think) i have a few ideas on how to get me start.

Thanks again!

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#252

so loopop has an organelle-m , will he like it ?

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#253

Would some lovely soul recommend a generative sequencer for Organelle? Something resembling Marbles or Turing Machine would be fabulous.

#254

https://patchstorage.com/turingmachina/

and

https://patchstorage.com/camenti/

come to mind; the latter is sample based. have fun!

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#255

Lovely, thanks. Is the TM in Orac module? Seems not.

#256

you could make one :wink:

when i get around to it, I plan to add Marbles to Orac.
i need to decide exactly how to integrate it, but I’ve some ideas…
(the marbles will be fully ported to pure data, as ive done with other MI modules, but i’ll likely limit the interface a bit in orac module… as its just such a complex beast, so i need to compromise a bit)

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#257

Thank you for these and all the other patches you’ve made for Organelle. I’m picking up an Organelle-M over holiday largely because of your contributions and @TheTechnobear’s incredible work. Excited to use it outside with a field recorder :deciduous_tree:

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#258

Yay , OS4 released for both organelle-1 and organelle-m

Lots of cool stuff, but my favorite is supercollider now works ‘out of the box’ :slight_smile:

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#259

thank you! thanks gracias /20

#260

That would be really rad.

#261

as trackers now seem to becoming popular again, I wanted to give them a go…
time to install SunVox onto the Organelle-M for a totally portable solution
(all powered off Organelles’s 4 x AA batteries :slight_smile: )

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#262

Is the Orangelle capable of emulating Roland SP 505/555 live looping? I’d like to do sound on sound overdubbing, bit reduction, lofi compression but with longer sampling time than the SP’s. Essentially using it like Dakim uses the SP in this live set. Can the Orangelle handle this and does a patch already exist for it that is capable of this?

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#263

i could be way wrong but i think he’s making loops with this

organelle primarily runs pd patches so the answer is yes a similar loop function can be done…but i doubt it’s already available

there used to be a count 2 five emulation that might kinda get you where you want but i cant say for sure since i no longer have an organelle

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#264

I’ll have to check out the count 2 five patch. I was hoping a pd patch already existed since i only have limited pd experience and its been a couple years since i’ve touched it.

In the video he’s definitely using a Roland SP-505 and a Korg Microsampler. You can see it pretty well at some points in the video and its been discussed elsewhere.

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#265

Gotcha

For some reason i assumed there was another looper at his feet

Honestly i think SPs are underrated cause after hunting…I’ve never found a single device that does exactly what they are capable of

To get some of that SP flavor and function (with longer sampling time) i currently use a combo of m4l fx w/ otis for sound on sound dubbing.

#266

The “dakim-loop” technique make use of the delay on the SP. I don’t know if it works on all models. I’ve got the SP-404sx, which has it.

If you max the feedback on the delay. it becomes a 1-bar looper when you set delay-time to one bar.
The loop doesn’t go on forever, it slowly shaves off (mostly low-end) I believe.

With this technique you can do some cool things:

  1. Once you have a loop running you can “glitch it” with the delay-time knob. The glitch gets recorded and you now have a glitchy loop running.
  2. The feedback knob works as a volume control for the repeated sounds. So by making fast movements (lowering feedback, and then back to max) you can turn down sounds.

Have a look at the Ricky Tinez SP-404sx + Circuit videos on Youtube. He uses the technique to make house.The Boss/Roland SP sampler thread

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#267

I’ve got the Organelle mk I, but I don’t know the answer. There are a lot of different loopers for sure.

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