Have you got the keyboard tab open in Kontakt? it shows you the layout. The red keyed section is to change the pitch of the loaded sample up or down a semitone, the blue keyed section shows you where your samples have been loaded - think it just loads them in alphabetic order, each sample loaded a semitone up along the keyboard

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This looks super up my street but it’s unfortunately outside my budget.

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that helps a lot. Thank you very much!

We just released a new update which lets you have better control over where the samples get loaded.

The drag and drop feature was a super quick updated we put in about a week after releasing, as NI had only just made the feature available when we launched, so glad to have got this more useable interface in there now.

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that’s great news. Will dig in tonight. Thank you!

It seems super expensive for software. You can get a Phonogene for that price.

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Has been totally worth it in my experience. I reach for it all the time when I’m stuck. Everyone’s needs and expectations are different, but Cycles has really made an impression on me (and I really haven’t worked through a good chunk of the sound library).

Quick example- last night I was putting the finishing touches on a single, and it just needed an additional element. So I chopped up a section of a pine cone I’d sampled and output to tape into a quick four bar loop, threw it into Cycles, and had a lovely synced-yet-asynchronous thingy going on. All in about five minutes. Here’s what a pine cone sounds like through one of the Grains presets in Cycles :smiley:

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I really do think this will eventually be a part of my tool set. Honestly, this in conjunction with the Polyend Tracker I just got would allow for really complex yet short-ish samples to bring in on projects there. It is on the short list of desirable tools.

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it’s worth it to me too. I’ve gotten enormous amount of use out of it in the last couple weeks. Also, the update for drag and drop is immediately so beneficial

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I don’t own a Phonogene so I can’t comment on what it’s like to use that vs Cycles, but from the videos I’ve seen of Phonogene and my personal experience using Cycles, my impression is that Cycles is quite dramatically more flexible than a Phonogene… but it seems like that’s not really what the issue is, more the perception that software should cost less than hardware… which I personally think is kind of irrelevant.

I think that most people would be able to gauge from the videos of Cycles whether it will be useful to their workflow. If it is, it’s easily worth the price… it is for me anyway. You can do a lot of the same stuff that you do with Cycles with chains of other VSTs/native fx, but I haven’t found a faster way to get the great sounding results and dramatic transformations I get with Cycles, and that time savings is very valuable to me. In addition to that I’ve gotten sounds out of Cycles it’s never occurred to me to try creating before, and that makes it pretty much priceless.

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Where does one find this update? My version indicates 1.0 in Native Access, and I can’t seem to find a way to prompt or download an update in Native Access nor in Pulse.

update instructions are here:

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Doh. The one place I did not search! Thanks mucho

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Trying to hold off on a new computer purchase for awhile so I’m using the wife’s 2018 retina macbook air at the moment. Do you think cycles would run on it? It’s a dual core 1.6ghz i5 with 16gb ram. I’m guessing if it does, I’d prob have to render each instance once I have something I like.

Will likely be problematic. I run on a 2016 macbook (1.2GHz dual-core Intel Core m5 processor (Turbo Boost up to 2.7GHz) with 4MB L3 cache) and it struggles on (give or take) more than half of the algorithms.

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Thank you! Probably best to wait til I have a beefier machine.

i finally dove in and bought cycles. only been noodling for about an hour and am already so in love.

here is a quick recording of a short piece:

which i managed to get out of this sample:

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Does anybody who has this have an Arbhar and can help me make a comparison? I just got mine yesterday and already adore it, but am curious how they might compare or where they might differ?

@kasselvania I’d say the biggest difference is that Cycles cannot be used on live input. It is strictly a “load samples/loops and mangle them” tool.

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That’s fair and something I assumed might be the difference. My other thoughts were how the end product might differ. Cycles strikes me as somewhat of a granular/slicing sequencer, instead of a granular engine like Arbhar. Basically meaning that I can take more control over how the layout of the slices and grains stack upon each other and sequence. Would that be a fair assessment?