Delinquencer - A sequencer but with a mind of its own

Hi kcpaul and SPIKE, I have some time tonight when I finish work and I will investigate fully and come back hopefully with a resolution if I find a problem, or better instructions if it does work but I have failed to explain how to get it working. Thanks for your feedback, appreciated.

It certainly “did work”, but I will clear my Norns and download it from the Git repository to make sure in case some gremlin has crept in the copy I uploaded from what I am running.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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OK, Managed to get a bit of time during my lunch hour and from a clean download of the Delinquencer code of GitHub and a synth I hadn’t tried with it before, and it all works fine.

So for my setup I’m using a cheap £5 midi interface off fleaBay and a Behringer Model D.

To get it working I followed these steps:

  1. Made sure my Behringer Model D was listening on Midi Port 1. (Can either be done via a software app or switched on the back, I used software).
  2. Connected my cheap Midi controller cable into the USB port 2 of the NORNS
  3. Connected the Midi out cable to the MIDI In on the Behringer Model D, see below:

  1. Switched everything On, no magic smoke so carried on.
  2. Loaded up the Delinquencer on the Norns
  3. Went into the NORNS System settings and made sure that the USB interface cable had been recognised and was selected in position 2, see below:

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  1. Went into the Delinquencer Parameters Edit, Output option screen and set:
  • Output to be audio + midi
  • Midi out device to 2 (so it matches where I plugged the USB cable into earlier)
  • Selected Midi Out Channel to 1 to match what the Behringer Model D is expecting.

See below:

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  1. Started the Delinquencer sequencer
  2. Cranked up the synth volume and annoyed the neighbours :slight_smile:

Hopefully looking at the pictures and my notes above you should be able to get it working, if not I would suggest trying to get a different Norns app that outputs midi to work first then trying the Delinquencer.

Fingers crossed for you both.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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MIDI output works great for me. Not that i understand how on Earth this works haha but it works somehow… on its own¹ :wink: Beautiful script thank you.

¹ should study the docs, which are plentiful and clear i must add

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LOL, I sometimes get surprised at what happens and what comes out of it, I certainly feel that I’ve lost control of my monster :slight_smile:

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Hi Kevin. Thanks for your attention. My synths are both connected directly to USB ports on the norns. They are listed as MIDI devices 3 and 4. I send signals to them by selecting them as MIDI outputs in the parameter settings of most scripts, such as awake and flora. What happens if you select the NTS-1 in your setup? Can you send MIDI to that? Because that is exactly what I am trying to do.

Best,
Kevin

Hi, the NTS-1 digital kit entry is a hangover from me connecting one of the Korg NTS-1 synths to it.
Unfortunately I didn’t try the Delinquencer script with it (sold it before Delinquencer came into the world). I think one problem can be if there is a mismatch between the synth being seen as a Midi Device or a Midi Host. Loopop has a great video on this … USB & MIDI: Everything you need to know to get it right (USB MIDI Host vs Interface explained) - YouTube

However, I would expect the Norns to be acting as a host and your synth a device, so that shouldn’t be be an issue and if everything works with another Norns script then all evidence points to there being an issue with the Delinquencer … I’ll try and put some time aside today to compare the midi handling code in awake and the Delinquencer to see if I can see anything.

Kind Regards

Kevin.

P.S. If anyone else is following these posts and has the Delinquencer working with a Synth via MIDI could they post their config please to see if we can spot a trend and come up with a solution for kcpaul and SPIKE.

sorry to report…still no MIDI. :frowning:

i did a few things to troubleshoot…:slight_smile:

  • started with my usual config and tested a couple of other scripts that send MIDI.
  • everything working but no MIDI from Delinquencer.
  • shut down the USB hub and directly connected my MIDI IO directly to norns.
  • removed and added back the MIDI device on norns devices page.
  • relaunched another script to check MIDI TX and everything works
  • launched Delinquencer and no MIDI
  • tested sending a MIDI Panic from Delinquencer to see if anything would register on my synth’s display screen and no luck there either.

here are my norns settings…


hmmmmm…just a second…i’m going to try one more thing…
AH!!!
i think i found the problem!

Delinquencer ONLY sends to MIDI device 2 from norns!

i removed the MIDI IO device from slot 1 on norns and added it to slot 2 on the devices page and BING…started getting noiz from my synth!

can you update the script to TX and RX MIDI on any port?

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Excellent, just spotted your post. So it certainly sounds like there is a bug in my code and its not looking at the devices settings parameter (I wonder if its not reading it or if its hard-coded somewhere)

I’ll put a pot of strong coffee on the stove to wake myself up and see if I can see what’s wrong. Thanks for the feedback, really appreciated.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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I’ve used Delinquencer with an NTS-1 as MIDI device 2, without issues. I usually have OP-Z as device 1, but maybe I haven’t tried it as a device for Delinquencer, now that i think of it. Both are connected to norns directly, I’ll try to see if I can help debugging on the code side of things.

OK folks, I think I have fixed it :slight_smile:
Thanks to SPIKE, xmacex and kcpaul for helping me track this one down.

So Github has been updated to version 2.2.0.

If you delete your Delinquencer folder in Maiden and pull another copy from the command line:
;install https://github.com/kevinlindley/delinquencer`

Also the Delinquencer parameters screen now shows the device name rather than just the device number so this makes it easy to see what you are connecting the Delinquencer to,

Screen

Fingers, crossed, all should be good, I would appreciate it if someone could give it a try so I can properly close this issue and mark it as resolved.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused … I’ll kick my Beta Tester now for not finding this … (Ouch !)

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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Kevin

Thanks for the quick repair. Reinstalling now.

Best,
Kevin

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AWESOME!
Thank you!!!

i’ll update everything later tonight. :stuck_out_tongue:

once i got it working last night i dove into the noiz with Delinquencer!

it’s controlling a Virus B as well as the internal noiz using Bass 2.
some help with the scripts @Olivier Compass and @dan_derks Cheat Codes 2.
other noiz generated by the Opera Rotas and an MBase11.

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Excellent, glad it all sprung into life.

(I really must get myself and Access Virus Synth).

Like the visuals too, are you into the Visual Synth Modular world ?

Thanks for posting, always great when I see my scripts being used by others.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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Thanks!

i really dove into the videosynth realm over the past few years.
the explosion of video doodads has also helped with generating all sorts of eye candy as well. :stuck_out_tongue:

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does this support crow v/oct and gate out? would love to try this to sequence my modular…

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Hi,

Sorry not currently.

Unfortunately I don’t have a crow so I have no way of implementing this and testing it :frowning:
If I manage to get a crow second hand I may add it but they very rarely come up for sale on ebay and I just can’t afford to buy a new one.

If you have a standard Midi to CV such as a Dopefer A-190-* or a Mutable Instruments Yarns then Delinquencer can drive that for CV and Gate to let it loose with your Modular.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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No worries. Thanks for the reply! I’m working on getting a midi-cv solution so hopefully will be able to jam out with delinquencer soon.

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@Klindley I can’t see this script in maiden. Am I missing something?

Hi,

Installation

  1. From maiden:
    ;install https://github.com/kevinlindley/delinquencer
  2. Power Off and On to install the new Engine provided.

I have now added the script to the norns community script, so soon it should automatically be listed in maiden.

Kind Regards
Kevin.

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Great, thanks Kevin! Looking forward to exploring it