Disintegrating Loops

thought of something simple for deteriorating loops:
add random amounts of DC offset(keep signal within range with soft-clipped distortion or limiting of some kind) to each re-recording… i know it’s not as good as tape or analog, but just had to try it in Max


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Ha, I bought one of those FM-radio transmitters a few years ago hoping for lofi-goodness. I gave up on it after a few minutes, as I recall because it sounded too good. Probably too early. What happens if you increase the physical distance between the transmittor and receiver. It should probably introduce interesting artifacts. Maybe you can disturb the signal in some way?

I need to look into this again. Btw, the SP-303 vinyl simulator can be a way to add extra texture (wow, flutter) as well.

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I get different results depending on a few factors - which FM frequency I use, how far away the transmitter is from the receiver, what objects I use to try to interfere with the signal etc. Also unreliable signal paths are fun. I got a clock radio and close-mic’d the speaker on that instead of taking a direct signal into the computer. Using the same method for tape but using the dictaphone microphone is handy too. It all depends how poor you want it to sound (but yes you do have to work at it because they’re surprisingly quite good!)

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Haha, yes that matches my memory.

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Blocks thread: Reaktor blocks

Less active Ensemble thread: Share your Reaktor ensembles

Misc: Looking for non subtractive Reaktor ensembles and esoteric sequencers

It might be worth starting a dedicated Reaktor thread. The User Library is such a perfect resource for a lot of people doing the Depth Year this year, or at least those trying not to spend money on more gear.

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Thanks, these are a great place to start! The depth year angle is more or less exactly why I bought it, to be honest - I figured that it would be able to provide me with the means to create things I needed (/gearlusted after) and therefore would offer some GAS insulation. Also the Space Echo emulation and Cloudlab ensembles are (to me) arguably worth the purchase alone!

I had avoided starting a new thread because I got the feeling most people were M4L users as Reaktor hadn’t been mentioned often but I shall start one up forthwith :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’m really looking forward to the E520. I feel like between the more standard-ish delays, the spectral craziness and this it’s never going to not be busy :slight_smile:

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I feel like I gave up on the Volante too quickly. I got one when it came out, but ended up swapping it out for a Meris Polymoon. Both are cool, but the Volante has all of these awesome extra features, plus it sounds really good…

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I’ve been thinking about this too but my thought was to use low power AM because it is more “disintegratable”. Thoughts?

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That video is dangerously close to pushing me into ordering one. Finding a looper in euro that I like is a constant struggle.

It makes a lot of sense, but the transmitter I have only does FM.

I’ve been trying so hard not to ignore this module, but this sounds amazing!

a take on a disintegration loop…

it’s a combo of a Volante on SOS mode going through a OTO BOUM with the gate turned on. If you very carefully set your levels you can get it so that the gating effect starts snatching snippets of quiet audio out of the loop as it slowly thins out and quiets through the Volante re-recording the loop.

I suspect this would also be interesting and possibly better if I put the reverb before the gate.

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I’ve been messing up with my Morphagene looper and I recorded a short piano loop that reminded me of William Basinski’s The Disintegration Loops and then I went further making a patch and full track eventually. Here’s the full track I’ve made with some additional noises and a Make Noise DPO drone.

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Here’s a link for patching a Boss RC300 Looper to do loop disintegration as additional sound is recorded. Post reply #53

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=6845.50

I did this a few months ago, but didn’t post it here because it seemed like cheating - there were no mechanics involved, no reel to reel, no cassettes, and no physical degradation. It’s a loop I created using an 0-Coast and an H9, which I recorded in a DAW and then used automation to successively mess up each repetition of the loop using plug-ins (mainly Softube’s OTO Biscuit VST).

But it is a loop, and it does disintegrate. :slight_smile:

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found this to be sweet for this task:
CHOWTape (mac/win) free vst and au

just automate its loss/degrade/chew sections.

as for good free device inspired by Lucier’s ideas:
WaveResampler 1.0 (m4l/free)
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6487/waveresampler

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Thanks for pointing to this - it looks very useful.

I also managed to compile the Linux VST3 on Manjaro / Arch without too much difficulty by following the Github instructions.

DoS:
my pleasure!
also iOS port is in beta stage
and will be free too.

also from that wonderful coder
check “chow matrix” (very interesting take on delay!)
and his vcv rack modules.

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That would be Tim Hunkin’s The Secret Life of Machines. :slight_smile: he’s put remastered episodes up on youtube and has a new online series out too which I haven’t watched yet but is sure to be great :slight_smile:

Watching that show as a kid was a major influence on my getting into electronics :slight_smile:

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