I think this is a really nice piece of music. It reminds me a bit of some of the later work Talk Talk did. And for that reason, my mind craves a voice like Mark Hollis’ to come in at some point and let me sail away with it.

@Elisa-room237 said she would like to hear a saxophone in place of the electric guitar in the solo at around the 3 minute mark :smiley:

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never mind…i’m done now

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I’m looking forward to time tonight and tomorrow to listen to these and provide feedback - Thanks for another interesting idea!

Here’s mine for this week:

I might reupload a different edit of the track at one point, but ran it through a mixer at home that flattens things into AM radio range and like the noise ceiling. Want to get a bit away from it for the evening and revisit though with fresh ears, and might replace the file with a cleaner mix. But basic idea is this is three separate kitchens all having breakfast at the same time. It’s the second track for “The Morning” in this playlist of pieces I’m calling “Short Stories”. Here’s the full playlist:

All of these are Junto tracks, in the order they’re completed. Except I removed the “TV Announcement” one from a few weeks back and replaced it with this noise piece, “A Faded Memory of 4AM”

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Modular drums and bass, 4 tracks of pedal steel guitar drone ( EBow) processed through reverb and granular synthesis on the modular, Telecaster through a massive pedal board. Minimal edits in ProTools. I tried to be as “live” as possible. I did have to record the pedal steel parts in multiple passes.

Now I can download the playlist and have a listen!

Had to reload this, as there was an audio glitch that I didn’t notice until I listened on headphones.

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@dede I thought that this was a lovely track. I was listening to some of your other tracks on Friday and they were much more rhythmically complex. I’m just guessing, but could some changes or stop/starts in the drum track make you feel less bored with your song?

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@Ethan_Hein yes, a voice could be great, it is inspired in their vocal version, mostly the male vocal part (as you might have noticed there’s no Kate chorus in this one) but I don’t know any singer/lyricist that could do it. A voice like Tim Bowness or David Sylvian would be awesome, :wink:

@mdh Thanks for you comment, I wish I played the sax, I agree it would be better. The guitar and the second ebow guitar is a bit boring for me too.

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@Elisa-room237 That was a great track!! Loved how you covered so much ground in just two minutes. I’ve seen several bands live (ISIS, Cult of Luna, Neurosis) who use little ambient soundscapes or washes between their songs - it creates a great atmosphere, but also give them a chance to retune their battered guitars. Likewise, when your track ended, I imagined a little rhythmic pulse or drone emerging as a gently fading tailpiece. (You might even create this ambient conclusion by sampling or quoting from something in your own song). Just a thought…

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Beautiful piece. I’m not bored! I do know what you mean though, and it is often a problem with the types of pieces. I was wondering if there was a very minimal pulsing bass line that could fade in sometime in the last couple of minutes…

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It isn’t really going nowhere… but it is s hanging around in the neighborhood. I like these sort of things to listen to while driving or as a soundtrack for a bike ride. Nice!

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my ‘studio’ (pictured) is hidden behind the tv, and then diffuse throughout the house with instruments all over. similarly, my process is kind of diffuse - they’re all sketches; i approach music like, i dunno, a genetic algorithm: i make hundreds of tracks a year and i assume that naturally they’ll get better (quickly completed) without me really trying (at the mo i seem to apply a high fitness function to cello drones and guitar noise, hypnotic repetition and slow movement!)

that said i’m happy to get feedback too: it’s just that it tends to percolate into future work in a more gradual manner if it aligns with what i’m doing (and just as likely if i disagree fundamentally i’ll double down in the opposite direction (cf paulstretch))

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@howthenightcame

That’s an idea.
Though for this track I wanted a more straight mantra-like groove and feel, but the lack of melodic variation bores me indeed.
If I can get a friend to play the sax I will do it and it should make it, replacing the ebow with a sax.
If not, I might give a try to your suggestion, making some rhythmic quirks her and there, could be closer to my taste indeed.
THANKS!!!

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Hey Tunnelwater - I really love the ambient space you’ve made here! I suppose if you’re interested in feedback, the only thing I was thinking was how cool it would be if the mood you have here juxtaposed itself somewhat with another sound.

I was thinking about last week’s entry from you:

These two pieces sound nicely similar to one another and if you promptly cut from one to the other it could nicely emphasize the differences in each. (a blunt cut at roughly 1:45 of blue haze right into 1:45 of open studios, for example) - just to create a dialogue between the two. But they both sound really nice and mood affection by themselves. Great work on each of these.

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What a kick! This has moments of reminding me of my favorite moments of 1990s waxtrax/club music. Fun Thrill Kill Kult moment here around the halfway mark, or so. Nice conclusion, too. I really enjoy this!

Have you ever tried making any video to accompany your music? With visualizers available as apps could be a fun thing to try out.

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Thanks EPTC! I’ll take that as a compliment–I’m a big Thrill Kill Kult fan. My goal was to the take dance industrial genre (like TKK, KMFDM, etc) and hard techno and make something modern. Sounds like I’m moving in the right direction.

I will definitely check out those visualizers. I’ve thought about posting stuff on YouTube, but couldn’t figure out how I would come up with the visual component. This could be the answer.

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Special challenge: give feedback to a lengthy ambient drone …

Enough movement?
Too much movement?

I am really a minimalist in my heart and convinced that there is a perfect balance between nothingness and somethingness …

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Nice piece! If you’ll welcome the reaction, I feel there’s nothing missing at all. Instead, it feels like there’s too much there, or it starts off unusual and unpredictable and becomes less so the more things you add in. Is that cool feedback to suggest? I don’t mean it as a criticism. The opening is just really cool and I wonder if that could be something that’s more focused upon, instead of building up dance layers.

I’m actually most interested in the first 45 seconds before the beat drops in. You have some nice moments there that could loop a few times. This is totally subjective, but have you tried looping the phrase at 30seconds-45seconds twice (right up to before the bass drops in) and then maybe jumping to the awesome ending at 4:25? That’d be kind of asynchronous and weird. It’d be shorter but kind of odd.

The first 45 seconds are extremely interesting and unpredictable. I kind of find my ears predicting what’s going to happen next from that point on — Except for the great ending you have there.

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Wow! What a great set-up for an idea to build music around! Gonna think about this (and your very cool piece, too) before offering feedback. What an idea for a track, and a reference. I love it.

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Unfortunately, I don’t have neither norns nor grid, therefore I can’t generate any “technical” feedback, but incredibly lovely and relaxing it is. This is going to play as an album in the color correction / grading room where I work now A LOT. Thanks you!

P.S. Oh my. Work got so intense I can’t listen to all the tracks in the junto. Never thought that would happen.

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Subjectively, absolutely enough everything, included much needed subtlety. Please don’t change anything.

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@eptc that is such a gorgeous proposal…

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