Disquiet Junto Project 0567: Three Meters

Note: for a few hours there was a typo on disquiet.com. It’s been corrected. (In one of the several places where I list the time signatures, I had a /7 where there should have been a /8).

Thanks to @RPLKTR for instigating this week’s metrically varied project.

This week’s project instructions popped up at disquiet.com/0567 (powers of automation willing) shortly after 12:10am Pacific Time on November 10. (I was asleep at the time.) The email containing those instructions went out via tinyletter.com/disquiet-junto later in the morning (after I woke up), and then I posted them here, on the Junto Slack, and my Mastodon account, and Instagram, etc. And if you’re on Mastodon, please use the #DisquietJunto tag. Much appreciated.

Each Thursday in the Disquiet Junto music community, a new compositional challenge is set before the group’s members, who then have just over four days to upload a track in response to the assignment. Membership in the Junto is open: just join and participate. (A SoundCloud account is helpful but not required.) There’s no pressure to do every project. It’s weekly so that you know it’s there, every Thursday through Monday, when you have the time.

Deadline: This project’s deadline is the end of the day Monday, November 14, 2022, at 11:59pm (that is, just before midnight) wherever you are. It was posted on Thursday, November 10, 2022.

Tracks are added to the SoundCloud playlist for the duration of the project. Additional (non-SoundCloud) tracks appear in the llllllll.co discussion thread.

These are the instructions that went out to the group’s email list (at tinyletter.com/disquiet-junto):

Disquiet Junto Project 0567: Three Meters
The Assignment: Make music in 5/8, 6/8, and 7/8 time signatures.

Thanks to Łukasz Langa (aka RPLKTR) for instigating this project.

Step 1: The week this project is published, the Disquiet Junto will be doing its 567th consecutive weekly project. Think about those digits and how they relate to each other.

Step 2: Record a piece of music that moves between — and perhaps even overlays — 5/8, 6/8, and 7/8 time signatures.

Eight Important Steps When Your Track Is Done:

Step 1: Include “disquiet0567” (no spaces or quotation marks) in the name of your tracks.

Step 2: If your audio-hosting platform allows for tags, be sure to also include the project tag “disquiet0567” (no spaces or quotation marks). If you’re posting on SoundCloud in particular, this is essential to subsequent location of tracks for the creation of a project playlist.

Step 3: Upload your tracks. It is helpful but not essential that you use SoundCloud to host your tracks.

Step 4: Post your track in the following discussion thread at llllllll.co https://llllllll.co/t/disquiet-junto-project-0567-three-meters/

Step 5: Annotate your track with a brief explanation of your approach and process.

Step 6: If posting on social media, please consider using the hashtag #DisquietJunto so fellow participants are more likely to locate your communication.

Step 7: Then listen to and comment on tracks uploaded by your fellow Disquiet Junto participants.

Step 8: Also join in the discussion on the Disquiet Junto Slack. Send your email address to marc@disquiet.com for Slack inclusion.

Note: Please post one track for this weekly Junto project. If you choose to post more than one, and do so on SoundCloud, please let me know which you’d like added to the playlist. Thanks.

Additional Details:

Deadline: This project’s deadline is the end of the day Monday, November 14, 2022, at 11:59pm (that is, just before midnight) wherever you are. It was posted on Thursday, November 10, 2022.

Length: The length is up to you. Perhaps something to do with 5, 6, and 7?

Title/Tag: When posting your tracks, please include “disquiet0567” in the title of the tracks, and where applicable (on SoundCloud, for example) as a tag.

Upload: When participating in this project, be sure to include a description of your process in planning, composing, and recording it. This description is an essential element of the communicative process inherent in the Disquiet Junto. Photos, video, and lists of equipment are always appreciated.

Download: It is always best to set your track as downloadable and allowing for attributed remixing (i.e., a Creative Commons license permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution, allowing for derivatives).

For context, when posting the track online, please be sure to include this following information:

More on this 567th weekly Disquiet Junto project – Three Meters (The Assignment: Make music in 5/8, 6/8, and 7/8 time signatures) – at: https://disquiet.com/0567/

More on the Disquiet Junto at: https://disquiet.com/junto/

Subscribe to project announcements here: https://tinyletter.com/disquiet-junto/

Project discussion takes place on llllllll.co: https://llllllll.co/t/disquiet-junto-project-0567-three-meters/

The cover image for this project is from DALL·E 2, where “three rulers, colorful photograph” was the prompt.

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It took me a little while to transcribe a chord progression that I’ve been jamming on with a ukulele, then I plugged in a drum beat and a bass line.

To give it shape, I slip into 4/4 and then back to the original loops.

Not entirely sure I have the time signatures correct, as I was trying to use an arpeggiator to set one part, but I like the result for now.

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when you divide a phasor running from 0 to 1 into three consecutive sections which share the same ratio to each other as 5, 6, and 7, you get sections with lengths of(5+6+7=18; therefore 5/18, 6/18, and 7/18) 0.277777777777778, 0.333333333333333, and 0.388888888888889 (or retriggers at points 0., 0.277777777777778, and 0.611111111111111 on the phasor) :point_down:
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from there i was able to establish the basic rhythmic ratio for 5,6,7 but then i tweaked so much, it’s hard to say if it’s 5/8+6/8+7/8 or perhaps 5/128+6/128+7/128 :rofl: … basically, i followed the prompt at first, and then went off into random territory :blush:
also, the pitches were scales based on “5”, “6”, and “7”: the octave divided into 12 steps, and then 5(pentatonic), 6(whole-tone), or 7(diatonic) scale degrees were used spread across those 12 steps

here’s the max patch, sorry not many comments, it’s mostly automated(and too big to paste compressed text straight into post so i’ve zipped it):
567.maxpat.zip (32.2 KB)

here’s the track:

(funny story - when the numbers ‘5’, ‘6’, ‘7’ kept going through my head while making this track, it sounded like, “5,6,7,8 schlemiel schlimazel Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!” in the voices of Laverne&Shirley from the opening of their show, that’s why the title of the track has those words in it :joy:)

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Four tracks each comprising 2 Euclidean Rhythms based on lengths of 5, 6 and 7, driving two step sequencers; one for pitch and the other for accents. The step sequencer pitches, and their length are the same but the accents match the length of the accompanying rhythm generator. The movement and development is created by the phasing of the sequences due to their comparative lengths.

Length is 210 seconds.

EDIT -----[ Saturday AM ]

Tweaked the sequence in Lines 1 and 3 by changing a couple of notes at the start and also allowed Line 1 to extend to 9 notes 2/3 way through to create a (literal) high point giving the piece a bit more form and direction.

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Hey All,
It may not be right but it is not not right.
Hope all are well.

Peace, Hugh

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Simplest approach without knowing what happens:
used tempo app on iPad (tempo 22 bpm, because it’s still 22), played 5 6 7 eighth beats, sent the whole thing through microcosm and recorded in TE TX-6 mixer
Mastering and mixing in ableton live.

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A quickie fun one! I might layer a sweeping melody over this.

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On the way home tonight I created the three melodies in my head, one in 5/8, the next in 6/8 and the last one in 7/8. I looped them together played at the same time (133 beats per minutes) played mellotron, and added the effects after. Quite pleased with this, fairly quick experiment, the patterns reminds me of early Matt Johnson / The The, the kind of post-punk psychedelia he did in his early recordings.

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So my understanding of music is…vague. My stuff is usually me trying to make Rothko paintings into sound. But, I made three different themes, set on as 5/8, the next as 6/8 and 7/8 time signatures. Then I ran it all through Augustus Loops and voila!

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great idea, always loved measures like 5x8 and 7x8…
I just created a click track on 3 consecutive measures of 5/8+6/8-7/8 and repeated for 3 minutes.
Spent most of the morning working on the drum part, recording editing and quantizing, then the bass part was quite easy.
Then I had other works to do today and got trapped on the repetitive guitars parts (3 telecaster, 3 les paul)
Late in the evening I tried to get some order on the mess but it’s late and have to abandon as it is.
I share this as a demo/work in progress, I will finish it during next week.
It is a mess but the groove is fine.

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oooof! you created something that sounds so smooth and fluid i don’t even perceive meter(was trying create a feel like this, but then my ego took mine a little too far on the intellectual side :rofl: …you have a musically wise soul), just a beautiful ride on the crest of waves… so natural and organic in feel, nice one! :raised_hands:

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Thanks for you nice words!
The original idea was to make such a “composite” groove swing an feel fluid and “easy”. I got lost myself on the intelectual side with the guitars :wink:
Your track is excellent btw, listened earlier and really enjoyed.

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My friends and I recorded this silliness with a zoom H2 and a metronome.

banana apple
banana banana
banana apple apple

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I kept things pretty simple for my submission and used a single synth patch recorded in three seperate passes. Each pass uses the same voice but has a different Euclidean rhythm fed into the envelopes and sequencer. Each pass also has different notes selected on the sequencer. The first rhythm plays through the entire track and is in 5/8. The second and third rhythms drop in and out throughout the track and are in 6/8 and 7/8.

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disquiet0567
Ternary Cadence
• Key: D Major BPM: 115 Time signature: 5/8, 6/8, 7/8 DAW: Reaper
• Instruments: Drums, Percussion, Synths
• Plug-ins: NI cloud supply, NI Massive, DSK Asian Z DreamZ, Vibromaster, Massive X
• IDEA: Create 3 sections to the song. One in 5/8 one in 6/8 and one in 7/8.
• PROCESS: Created 3 sections of drum patterns with my RY 30 drum machine. Added chords, lead sounds and a bass part.
• RESULT: A song that is 3 minutes and 7 seconds long containing 3 different sections each in a different time signature. Containing 6 different instrument sounds.

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i love the sound of those magnified sounds. it is very relaxing! I don’t understand the process at all but i enjoyed listening to your track

@xiiixxi I am new here and i love the vein of the sort of thing i am hearing in this challenge, takes me back to my university days. Love how the phasing and accents work in this. nice one.

@DeDe love the smooth groove of this, nice gentle lilt with a bit of grit. I also opted for that meter, just got to sort out posting it!

@HippiesWearMuzzles love the mellow flow of this. the overlapping patterns really put me in mind of gamalan music and i was really picturing a live performance of this, albeit a bleepy one :slight_smile:

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Thank you … and welcome :smile:

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This is my first time joining in, so i hope i am going about things in the right way! (let me know if i’m not). I usually write mostly comic/quirky songs but have been doing more and more electronic stuff over last few years.

I am a bit nervous as i see so many proper tech posts that are way beyond me, but i hope doing things this way is ok.

I use Cakewalk by Bandlab DAW with Vital free synth VST and a few other VSTs. For this piece i worked a different way than usual and explored using the step sequencer as well as my usual way of editing.

it is in repeated 3 bars of 5/4, 6/4, and 7/4 at 186 bpm. (for ease of how i could envisage working on it i set the meter to 18/4) the main chordal accompaniment has 5ths in the 5/4, 6ths in the 6/4 and 7ths in the 7/4, i think in A Dorian though it did want to go to a D root.

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And the playlist is rolling:

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Hi @disquiet I think you missed my track on the playlist.
Thanks
dd