ah, right! there is currently no norns-only repo browser – you’ll need a second device on the same network to interface thru with maiden (either web or CLI).

@ngwese might have some thoughts brewing re: an on-device repo portal tho :wink:

Waiting for pi4 support as well. Do you know if there will be a new shield specific for pi4 or if the current one will work as is? :thinking:

Thanks

pi4 support won’t get you any improvement (except for the usb c power port!!) and we’ve confirmed that a kernel swap will allow the existing shield to work.

my suggestion is to just get a pi3— keeping a large community project cohesive means everyone working with the same CPU resources.

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I need a second opinion. Do I have a broken screen, or should I reflow my solder? The screen was intially far, far brighter and then one day it all just lost all brightness.

I’m really hoping I don’t need to replace it, but also completely unsure how to fix it.

Basically any text that is dimmed is no longer visible.

Now eagerly waiting those panels files to order cutting :slight_smile:

I’m assuming the question is whether or not scripts/projects can be browsed, installed, and/or update from the front panel of norns?

Unfortunately not currently and there hasn’t been any discussion about that to date.

Beyond the maiden web interface there is the maiden command line tool if you are connected to the device via ssh or serial. The ~/maiden/maiden command exposes most everything the web interface does via several sub commands. For example:

  • ~/maiden/madien catalog update - will refresh the project catalogs
  • ~/maiden/maiden catalog list - will display the list of know scripts/projects
  • ~/maiden/maiden project update --all - will pull down latest versions of each project
  • ~/maiden/maiden project install <project_name> - will install the project with the given name

As of now the core components of norns; specifically the control engine (matron with does the on device menu) and the audio engine (sc and crone), are functionally independent of maiden. Architecturally this is has been nice and has allowed each to evolve independently.

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the shield kit now includes this basic case and matching hardware. this will get you using the norns as quickly as possible, without having to order a bunch of other parts and have more bits shipped around.

i’ve adjusted the price to $200, and $65 for a smd-populated board— this will help keep the project healthy.

also: i’ve added more information to https://github.com/monome/norns-shield

the bottom of the README would be a good place to store helpful knowledge— please contribute there if you have a build or operation tip to share!

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Would be awesome to know the size of those spacers. Trying to find something similar and one of the challenges was translating the word into something I can Google manually :slight_smile:

thanks for the reminder, i’ll add the hardware info

Is anyone still waiting for DigiKey to ship their Display? I’ve ordered it one month ago and it said it would have arrived yesterday, but it’s still pending. Maybe this COVID-19 madness is causing some delays?

Just think of it s the arrows are sticky and wraps around the edge.
So “IN” wraps around and into the input.

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Thank you for the tip!

I had forgotten the engraved area would appear whitish, so didn’t request they add the paper backing at the cutting place. Unfortunately, they don’t do this by default so it came as in the photos, with no protective film on the engraved side.

I think I’m going to have just the engraved panels re-cut, and will definitely ask for the paper backing, next time!

Thanks, I will definitely get a pi3b+ at some point, but pi4 is all ive got at the moment and im fairly poor atm. good to know the shield will work for pi4 with a kernel swap. new kit is looking fab wow

I have successfully built a norns shield. When connecting my Monome 40h DIY (Original Kit 40h02/070526) the device is correctly recognized. The buttons work, but the LED feedback is faulty. The correct buttons are addressed e.g. with Awake, but there is only a glitchy, random blinking of the respective buttons.

I found out that repositioning or adding grid:refresh() commands in the scripts can solve the problem. This works for some apps (e.g. Awake, Foulplay, mlr64, …); but this is not a good fix.

Do you have an idea what this could be due to? I have already tested USB Power of the Raspi (5.1V, 2.5A)

can you give some examples of script modifications you’re making?

does the 40h work fine on a computer?

Yes, the 40h runs without any problems on a Win10 PC. I also have a PICnome that has the same LED error on the Norns Shield.

Basic example: “Norns Study 4” of the official documentation.
I have added a g:refresh() inside the “for loop” of the grid_redraw function. Actually, this “idea” was simply a copy/paste mistake.

function grid_redraw()
g:all(0)
for i=1,16 do
g:led(i,steps[i],i==position and 15 or 4)
g:refresh()
end
g:refresh()
end
In the Awake script I added a g:refresh() command to the line 387. In the Foulplay script I added a g:refresh() command to the line 797. In all cases it is the first “for loop” of the grid_redraw.

Just built a new Norns Shield, I still don’t understand how to output midi. I’ve tried a USB-USB cable going from Norns to a PC but it’s recognized as a MIDI device inside the PC. Do I need something more?

Did you build the new one with case? If so can you measure the spacers for me?

i’ll post the spacer list when i get to the workshop

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That’s plugging in a host to another host. You’ll need to make up one of these 2hosts, or there are various solutions from Retrokit, or iConnectivity.

The cheapest option would be to get two USB to Midi IO cables, and connect up the ins and outs.

I hope that helps.