EDIT: never mind, had ‘error: init’ problems but a SYSTEM > UPDATE fixed it :slight_smile:

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hey hey! looks like some of the params updates from the last two releases aren’t being recognized. did you do a SYSTEM > UPDATE after you reflashed?

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Ah I just thought to try that while you were replying and it fixed it, thanks anyway :slight_smile:

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ok i’ve reflow the crystal and dac and it finally work ! thanks a lot !

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I’ve been trying to put together my norns shield, and I’ve run into a few problems.
When I ordered parts back in February I couldn’t get the right OLED header, (Preci-Dip 310-87-120-41-001101
So I got this one instead Preci-Dip 310-83-120-41-001101.
But now I can’t get the display in (on which I soldered the “right” header pins). I tried to push it quite hard, even so hard that I’ve cracked the display.
Can anyone tell me the difference between the two headers, and why the one I bought is wrong?
And does anyone know where to get an alternative header to the OLED header from the BOM Preci-Dip 310-87-120-41-001101?
They seem to be out of stock everywhere, unless I want to order 900.

I’d suggest the following for the female header:

517-929984-01-20-RK or 200-SLW12001TS

These expect a standard square(ish) pin header rather than the precision pins (round). Thus you can use standard pin headers for the male side.

Looking at the datasheet it seems the only difference is the “Plating code”? 83 vs 87. I’d also be confused as to why that would not fit as expected.

SS-120-G-2-N may be an equivalent substitution, but triple check the data sheet

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Ok, I actually got it in now but I think I ruined the display. It got three big cracks. But I think it was just a very tight fit that I didn’t handle properly.
But I was trying to boot anyway and I get green blinking light and a good stable red light. Same with the shield detached. But it looks kinda right. Green blinking while booting, then just red.
But the screen doesn’t really do anything, which might be expected. But it seems like there’s a very dim flash where the fireworks animation should be.
Should I be able to run it with an exterior monitor through the hdmi out or should I at least be able to see some output from it?
I just get a very nice test screen with the blurry colors.
Anyone tried to work this with an external display?

From discussion upthread/elsewhere I read that Norns cannot output graphics from the hdmi at all, alas

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ok, makes sense. I missed that bit, just read somewhere I should be able to read errors.
Gotta buy a new screen then and be more careful next time.
Thanks for finding it

It looks like the Norns Shield (just the PCB, sans kit) went from out of stock on https://market.monome.org/ to no longer being listed… Is this just a temporary inventory issue or will only the kit version be offered going forward?

(Sorry if this has been asked/answered elsewhere :slightly_smiling_face:)

we have only a few kits left, and are out of lone boards.

tentatively: when the kit is back in stock it will be fully soldered and include a proper enclosure. we will no longer be offering smd boards.

but do use the files to order a pcb and assemble your own!

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there are fab houses internationally that can do SMD finished boards - can’t comment on the best place for it but i might be interested in joining a group buy depending on how my next repair goes !

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Thanks @tehn for the quick background info! Curious to learn more about the updated kit whenever it is available

In the meantime, I’d be interested in alternative sources for an SMD complete PCB if there are any recommendations from the crowd (also likely interested in pooling orders if it makes sense @andrew or others)

I’d be on pretty keen too.

i am trying to better understand the demand for partial kits, particularly SMD-populated boards w/o the rest of the kit parts. please follow up if there are other factors.

  • cost: hard to afford a single unit
  • cost: desire for multiple units
  • already have other components
  • making a custom case, or don’t want to use the kit knobs and/or enclosure/etc
  • tried to hand-populate SMD and failed
  • enjoy building kits, but SMD is too hard
  • sourcing a PCB is too difficult

0 voters

and here’s just a general DIY poll

  • source everything DIY
  • SMD-populated PCB alone
  • kit with SMD-PCB and parts, no enclosure or mechanical
    • (existing shield kit) requires soldering
    • no soldering required

0 voters

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IMO, the kit as listed is very economical. considering the ecosystem, it is one of, if not the most incredible value in synthesis right now.

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Just my experience on this - I wouldn’t have built the Norns Shield had a kit not been available - I’d have found it too intimidating as I’ve done very little DIY. Having built one using the kit and having found it an overwhelmingly positive experience I’d perhaps have a crack at sourcing the individual components myself next time. But I’d have no idea where to start with sourcing the PCB via a group-buy etc. I bought an original Norns from y’all way back when but had to sell it during a rough spot.

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Ok so a shield kit arrived today :package:, now i need to put it together somehow (planning to find someone to pay for it, in Copenhagen). I have a couple of loose concepts for programs, but no idea about the sound side of things. I’m pretty excited actually.


I told you about this problem, how can i solve it?

i believe this script has a bug – it creates the same trouble on stock norns as well as shield (seems like it’s overloading the CPU). please let the script’s author know (and post that helpful video) on the script’s thread: Grd