Here you go, hope it helps…

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Thanks!! In 20 characters

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Likely a combo of this site:


and this site:

will get you started…!

It looks like this box selects from a number of simple bandpass circuits. I’m also seeing polystyrene capacitors, this type is also preferred in Serge ResEQ modules I think. But what are those big chunky guys?
@doomglue does your box click or drop out when you change which band is selected? I’m curious because sometimes they make continuous switches to prevent signal dropout when you’re changing values, but I’m not sure if they make rotary switches like that.

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Those are the Ls in LCR, and those are the trouble with building such a thing (along with finding the right switch). They are also what makes it sound the way it does.
Westfinga has traveled this road in recreating the Altec passive HPF. It utilizes a custom multitap inductor from Cinemag. Cost 350 Eurobux plus shipping, so $275 for the B&K is not sounding quite so bad any more.

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Yes, depending on material, there is a click/pop when you switch bands.

Would an RC version lack the resonance present in a RLC? I built a little passive BP filter with separate outs in the past for a euro rig and I don’t remember it sounding at all like the Bruel above.

I’m no math whiz, but if you’re using the B&K on an aux like Hainbach shows in his video (or using the Altec/Westfinga filter like our lord and savior King Tubby intended), you’re mainly going to hear the phase difference when the signal is added back to the mix. Then there’s also the particular nonlinearities of the inductor and the fact that you’re going to need more gain since it’s passive.

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Haha yes perfectly put :joy:

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Does anyone know if a compact battery powered phantom mic pre? I want to have something to use my Sensory Percussion pickup with my RME when I’m already using 2 other mics.

Because it’s a trigger and not really “a mic” as such, quality doesn’t matter so much. I just need to be able to power it via phantom, and have a bit of gain on tap (though not much).

I’ve googled some kits, but not really seen anything especially suitable (either not battery powered, or in the case of stuff like Sound Devices, too expensive/nice).

Does anyone know of any good starter circuits / projects around using THAT 2180A, 2180B, 2180C chips?
Thonk and Pusherman have them for around £4.50 +vat
the data sheet is here :https://www.thonk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/THAT_2180-Series_Datasheet.pdf

and it says they are good for
Faders• Panners• Compressors• Expanders• Equalizers• Filters• Oscillators• Automation

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Craig Lee’s VC panner based on a THAT app note is pretty nice.

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Some ideas, these aren’t simple and cheap but I can vouch they’re nice:

  • The GSSL SSL4k buss compressor clone uses THAT 2180/2181 as the gain control element, in case you want a relatively neutral stereo studio compressor
  • L1 has (or at least used to have) a superb quad Euro VCA/mixer and a nice compressor with THAT2180

Both of these have PCBs and panels available (GSSL at PCBGrinder, L-1 at his / their website).

thanks for your links @kbra and @hollasynth all good stuff.

…but also id love to know what is the simpliest oscillator (say) you could breadboard with it.

Manhattan Analog THAT VCA

Hi, you may find some clues in this schematic for the york modular THAT 2180 vca module

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I love passive filters, and passive circuits in general. Both because less cables floating around and therefore often being able to be used across different platforms/functions, but also I quite like how they can offer kind of unpredictable results since they will behave differently in different contexts. Even just RC filters I find come in really handy. There is a German synth builder, Trouby, who also is pretty obsessed with these and has lots of filter clone modules mostly copies from old DDR organs. They are pre-built but I think he sells them as kits sometimes too, might be worth contacting him - http://trouby.bplaced.net/modular/rcfs.htm. I’ve got the guitar and the ET-6, but older passive versions. Of course you can start just by experimenting with some resistors and caps, maybe some pots if you want them to be “playable” but don’t want to muddle around with expensive hand-rolled switches.

The main thing I tried to figure out and only did a bit of experimentation with was trying to figure out if using things like NoS styro caps actually made a difference in RC filters. I got a mix of old styros, other old film caps, tropical fish, and tried doing some tests and close listening but couldn’t notice any really huge differences, but this was in the context of just using aux amplification and not in a very careful or scientific way, just me goofing around. Given how passives behave I wouldn’t be surprised if things like the tone or non-linearity become much more noticeable and important when you introduce higher voltage and amplification, or where in the amplification/signal chain certain things are placed, like guitarists obsessions with tone caps. And as @GrantB points out, the inductor in these more desirable/classic filters probably plays a much bigger role than I think the caps do. That Altec clone looks really nice… I do wish now I didn’t know it existed though haha. Also what mixer you use if you aren’t using any other amplification will have a big effect. I recently got a new smaller mixer and tried out one of my passives on the aux rather than directly on the input… really bad results compared to my old mixer. I’m also still super bad at the very basic math behind all of this, but wouldn’t the phasing depends on the transformer and what taps are used on it?

Related to all of this too is using transformers for things like saturation and color. Well known good sounding transformers can cost big $$ because of people wanting them for things like studio gear as well as audiophiles for phono preamps. But you can use the aux out or an outboard amp/preamp and send the signal through transformers to get their color and saturation effects in a more crude DIY way too. If you have an electronics supplier near you might be worth doing some digging. I don’t have any that are particularly rare or desirable but I managed to find some for about a euro a piece at a shop I used to live near and collected quite a few different pairs, and even bought up an entire box of custom wound ones which I believe were made for a radio project. I keep meaning to make a project for them and do a small run, maybe someday…

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Hey All,

Does anybody have a 60 knobs? What do you think of it? I am wondering how the midi select works? Are there any LEDs that show us what selection you have?

Any pictures? Would love to see your builds.

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Any recommendations for a simple preamp to amplify guitar and/or line level gear like op-z to norns?

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MXR Micro Amp would be a good candidate.
MXR Micro Amp analysis/schematic

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It might be worth looking towards the turntablist community for that. The SC-1000 digital scratch instrument was initially a free-spinning platter but many people have fitted motorised adaptations to their devices. If you’re on FB there’s a group there which Andy (who created the SC-1000) regularly engages with.

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