Thanks everyone for sharing your experience on Digitakt in this thread. I’m kicking myself a little bit because I sold my OT at the beginning of the year after not using it for a couple of years. This preceded my entry into Eurorack by half a year, but now I kind of wish I had a sampler…

I do recall how difficult the OT learning curve was for me… I spent some months with it and dedicated a Moleskine to notes I made when I figured out how to do something! :joy: (I was never able to figure out how to use the crossfader either… :pensive:) Reading that Digitakt is more immediate is nice to hear. Though I have also been eyeing a Polyend Tracker as well…

I have a question for Elektron aficionados related to Digitakt: Is the sampling provided by Rytm on par with what Digitakt offers? I like the idea of a drum machine/sampler combo and a part of me wonders if I should just get the Rytm rather than the Digitakt.

If anyone has advice and opinions on that, I’d love to hear it. Thanks!

it’s the same. However, other than the sampling engine (and related FX), these instruments are nothing but the same. For me, Rytm is an odd one out in big Elektron boxes. Great sounding instrument of course, much easier to learn compared with OT but not as straightforward as Digitakt. Pads make you play drums differently, more as MPC (but of course, Rytm is not really MPC).

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Just so I understand your response clearly, you’re saying the sampling is the same between the two, but the fx and some things are different, including the pads? If so, Digitakt seems like a better deal, because I’m not that concerned with onboard fx or all of the individual outs on Rytm—don’t care about the pads either really.

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I’ve had the Digitakt from the first week it launched and I keep finding new things with it all the time. Elektron have somehow hit the magical spot of being restricted enough yet open enough.

Last week I bumped into Oscillator Sink’s video on tape loop style textures combined with trigless trigs and it opened a new world to me again.

This little bugger rewards exploration so well!

Even tho it’s very well balanced, there’s of course some things I’d like to see added. A second LFO would be nice so I wouldn’t have to use the ones of MIDI channels. A band pass filter would expand its sound sculpting capabilities quite a lot. A ping pong loop mode would offer nice things for the aforementioned tape loop technique.

What’s your favorite technique/workflow with the Digitakt?

Edit: thanks for moving this here. Somehow I failed in finding this thread.

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sampling and fx are exactly the same, workflow and interface are different. Pads are integral part of the workflow in Rytm so thats something to consider, if pads are not your vibe. Something to keep in mind is that Digitakt/Rytm dos not have the same realtime sampling machine like does Octatrack.

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This (and lack of real time sampling) was one of the main reasons I went back to Octatrack.
The custom LFOs on Octatrack are so great for more irregular modulation. It keeps it from getting too predictable. .

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Yea. I’ve had and sold the Octatrack twice. Kept my Digitakt. During the time I had both, the DT was so much more fun and it was much easier to direct my intent into something that I liked. I’ll probably have the OT at least once more. Looking forward to seeing what I make of it then.

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the OT MKII has a much better workflow for me now w/ the added buttons and more meaningful labels. the new OS brings it up to date with many of the features of the current line. I’m glad I went back.

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Been wanting to test the mk2 as the improvements look handy. Gotta say tho it puzzles me how they didn’t add audio interface capabilities for usb class compliant I/O mode as they did with all the other boxes.

I agree but I think they were focused on making the changes they could make without totally redesigning the device.
It would have been nice to at least have had midi over USB.

Oh that’s missing too? Wow. Sure, cost is king but then again for a full version increase the added functionality seemed a bit underwhelming.

I do consider fairly ofter to get Octatrack again. These days time is the biggest concern. Sadly I never got over the learning curve with this machine. People say that Elektron devices are hard to master. There is a certain truth in that but for me Octa is the real enigma.

I thought so too at first but it makes more sense to me than things like the Analog RYTM or an MPC 1000. At least w/ the MK.II all the front panel labels make sense and there are buttons to get you places that before were more difficult to find. The Octatrack is really deep for sure but it can also do shallower digitakt stuff with ease.

Did they add decimal points like on the Digitakt in the parameters by any chance? I had a MK2 briefly but found it a bit unprecise for my tuning needs. But I definitely gave up too early.

No decimal points.

I am so puzzled about Octatrack seeming complex to people. It’s not at all more complex than say a Digitone, it’s much more open ended though:) Maybe the MK1 version is a bit cryptic in it’s labels, dunno.

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I’m confused too as to why people think it’s so complex. It basically gives you a lot of choices, once you get what the choices are it’s fairly ok I think. The only thing I find unnecessarily convoluted is the tendency Elektron has to rename things with their own lingo “Pickup Machine”, “Flex Machine” etc. For stuff that already exists under much more conventional terms elsewhere. It’s like just because they’ve added a few features and cool workflow tricks they consider those concept need a rebranding and I find that annoying and a bit pretentious. Other than that, they’re really not that complicated. The Octatrack is really the Dark Souls of music gear.

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Oh yeah, I don’t find the OT complicated at all. I used to have two MK1 and used them like Ableton in a box. When I got the MK2 many years later, I thought it would rekindle my love for the machine. But after I had the Digitakt, the overall UI just felt a bit dated and slow.

I find the Digitakt just faster to use and simply more fun in comparison. But of course it is much more limited in some regards

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I think for myself and a lot of people, the Octatrack is pretty complex, especially as a first serious sampler. I was a songwriter focused mostly on electric and acoustic instruments in a band context, then went deep into synthesis and recording. While some of that certainly helped prepare me for aspects of how the Octatrack worked, there were still plenty of blind spots. I had an MPC for a bit too but really used it in a pretty elementary fashion in a live performance context for the most part.

Eventually getting my hands on a Digitakt for a while changed my perception of the Octatrack. Once I understood the workflow and concepts of Elektron generally, it made it way easier to approach the Octatrack with a lot less frustration. Now I’m having a blast, but I think the biggest frustration at this point and for a lot of people is it’s easy to lose focus because it does so much. Starting with the Digitakt is a much better move for most people I would imagine, though at this point I’m all in on the Octa.

I also think that some people are better with menus on electronic instruments than others. It took a long time for my mind to adjust to being open to that approach with synthesizers for example. The Octa was no different, and I think the Digitakt is much more accessible in that regard with its layout. Of course that also makes sense considering how much more the Octa can do.

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Thinking about moving from the DT to the analog rytm, and wondering if anyone else has made the same move and could offer an account of their experience?

Sequencing external gear is not super important to me. I’m just growing weary of sample hunting when a different timbre is desired.

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Based on your needs I’d go RYTM. It’s also got a lot of advantages from a performance standpoint. I find it’s synth engine to be more useful as a supplementary addition to samples generally, but certainly I could get by in a lot of contexts with just the built-in analog engine if I needed to. Especially if MIDI sequencing isn’t important, the RYTM is a bit better for your needs and overall a more powerful all around sampler and drum machine. Both are wonderfully accessible from my experience.

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