#3

I think this belongs here:

A cool argument in defense of emergent phenomena as irreducible primitives.

#4

That looks really interesting. Know of any way to read it that costs less than $40?

#5

That looks really interesting. Know of any way to read it that costs less than $40?

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Generative systems
#6

@sam had a post about algorithmic music essays being compiled for print by alex mclean & roger dean

which led to reading about livecode, Haskell (and tidal), and revisiting this art exhibit

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#7

Saw the following on Hacker News, I haven’t had enough time to go through it properly yet but looks very cool:

And the discussion from HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12476125

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#8

Yes, I’ve been meaning to make some prints from these algorithms, thanks for the reminder!

#9

A less philosophic work is the book Community of Variation:

In my forword to the book, I discuss how having a generative system and a forum in which ideas can genetically mutate as artists explore and learn from each other led to a great community of art.

I should probably put the text of the forward somewhere…

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#10

https://plus.google.com/photos/116416314233992548280/albums/5653907801710589409

Kevin Kelly says, “One of the hallmarks of natural systems is that they exhibit a peculiar set of patterns which we all recognize but are hard to specify. The science fiction author Rudy Rucker calls this quality Gnarl. The way trees branch out is gnarly. So is the way water curls in a wave, or sand erode on a beach… Scientifically gnarl may have something to do with fractals, and fibonacci numbers, and L-systems, and spirals and other laws of growth.”

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#11

if you do, i would be very interested in reading it.

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#12

not seen something quite like this http://chaoticatmospheres.com/mathrules-strange-attractors

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How did you learn to program?
Writing a bees op. (an attempt, help needed)
#13

These remind me of some ceramic pieces I’ve seen.

They make splendid dust attractors.

Oh…just remembered: I have some abstract ceramic pieces lurking among the rocks on my hill; in vaguely similar, albeit less mathematical territory.

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#14

some time ago i’ve found a web page about chua circuit. they show similar forms with an oscilloscope. i’m sorry i can’t find the site. but i’ve found this (it may be even better, because there is sound !)

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#15

Deep dream for music:
http://web.mit.edu/felixsun/www/neural-music.html

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#16

Hans Haacke on Generative Systems

…make something which experiences, reacts to its environment, changes, is nonstable…

…make something indeterminate, which always looks different, the shape of which cannot be predicted precisely…

…make something which cannot ‘perform’ without the assistance of its environment…

…make something which reacts to light and temperature changes, is subject to air currents and depends, in its functioning, on the forces of gravity…

…make something which the ‘spectator’ handles, with which he plays and thus animates…

…make something which lives in time and makes the ‘spectator’ experience time…

…articulate: something natural…

– Hans Haacke, Cologne 1965

lets consider generative art not as something exclusively digital/algrithmic (and even technological).
how about graphical notation in music? a language without specified semantics and without ‘standardised’ means of interpretation using human experience and cultural/theoretical knowledge as a complex factor in the generation of its interpretation. and how about free improvised music/dance/painting/etc.
shouldn’t we consider all art to be generative? aren’t we generative art systems, set into motion with a certain set of rules given by education, culture, history, politics, media etc?

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#17

Yes. But it’s something to take note of that fact and emphasize it.

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#19

Resurrecting this thread with this wonderful presentation: Beautiful visual examples of generative methods for music, markov chains, cellular automata, chance, etc.

https://teropa.info/generative-music-slides/

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#21

random find + bump for this thread

seeking some math-leaning readings!

also tools ? Processing does everything I need probably but doesn’t excite me for any particular reason. for 3D I’ve had wonderful experiences with three.js in the browser

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#22

Hello everyone, I think this is relevant to the thread!
So I’ve been working on a project that started somewhat spontaneously that involves “crowd sourcing” some decision making in my visual art.

Every day for the last week or so I’ve been making a poll on my Instagram (stories) where I show 2 pieces of digital art and ask my followers which they prefer. Whichever one “wins” I then manipulate into two new versions and repeat the process. It almost reminds me of the old sketching game Telephone. Its been interesting to see my art pushed in directions that I don’t think I would have gone on my own. If anyone’s interested in participating I’m going to keep it going for a few more days. Here’s the progression so far, showing just the “winners” of each day. Some days are really obviously connected, other days there’s a bigger jump in the manipulation techniques I’m using.

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