#224

You’re absolutely right, and probably not in mine or anyone else’s best interests for me to be thinking about eurorack purchases when I’ve been drinking! :joy:

Still could work in the 60 though if it’s deep enough…

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#225

I was only mentioning it as that means release is near. It wouldn’t be exclusive to the Euroburo.

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#226

I wonder if the headphone out will have it’s own module and therefore be able to be routed independently from the audio output module.

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#227

It seems like all the extra buttons are dedicated to their corresponding input/output?

But I don’t know how the single button would be routed a stereo signal…

#228

Is this now comparable to the ER-301? Can anyone comment on their differences?
I realise differences include the 4CV out on Zoia, lacking on ER301, and only stereo in on Zoia, compared to 4 channels on the ER301, plus many more CV inputs. I’m really more interested in the differences of capability between the two.

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#229

Perhaps routing a stereo signal to the headphone out will simply be handled by the module, or we may need to place a mixer before it. I wonder if it will have its own ‘audio output’ module so that we may route two separate stereo sends through Zoia, one via the main outputs and one through the headphone, each via their own modules.

#230

Wow man, I have been mulling over whether to buy a ZOIA for processing my bass live and I think my fate is sealed now that it can fit right in to a modular. Time to start saving!

EDIT: On that note actually, can anyone comment on how the “bread and butter” effects are in the ZOIA? I’ve heard a lot of demos that show really amazing reverbs, all the modular stuff it can do, crazy effects, etc - but there aren’t a lot of videos that really show real-world patches that you might do with a traditional effects pedal setup.

Specifically, I’m looking to be able to get a high quality “studio channel” type setup for general live bass work, with a great eq --> compressor --> tiny bit of dirt and then out. I haven’t heard much about the compressor in this box, which is my main point of concern (for lack of a better way to put it).

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#231

I totally love ZOIA and use it all the time, but for bass processing, I would probably stay analog.

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#232

Im new to the 301, but my immediate impression is that zoia will likely do effects “better” than the 301, specifically reverb. I can’t imagine the zoia being better to use in terms of display when you start talking about things like sample slicing, granular stuff, etc. because of the main and auxiliary screens (zoia screen is small and doesn’t seem too great resolution wise). The programming/routing will be a matter of taste, and the ability to output CV on the Zoia is also a big difference. I think they are likely very complimentary, and having Zoia in eurorack is pretty awesome, particularly given the limited reverb options in euro format, or at least reverb options that are as good as what empress can offer, in my opinion.

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#233

I think Zoiaburo and 301 would compliment each other well, especially with Zoia having CV outputs.

One of the huge differences between the 2 is how the signal flow works. In Zoia, every single connection has to be done by hand, the same as physically patching 2 jacks together with a cable. 301 has a structure of units in chains and subchains that works by placing the units in certain orders (though there are instances where you can work-around this signal flow like with global chains and custom units). I find it a little easier to get lost in Zoia, trying to remember what is patched to what, especially if the patch spans multiple pages.

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#234

Any helpful suggestions for building granular effects? I find the granular module quite temperamental, particularly when modulating its parameters. Also, the maximum of 8 grains seems very restrictive, I’m quite unable to achieve the glitching, fragmented effects I am accustomed. Looking for general hints and things to try, thanks.

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#235

I have a unit with a very moody set of function buttons(shift, pages and back). does anyone have any ideas of quick fixes while I wait for response from empress support?

#236

Chiming in as a new Zoia owner. Excited to learn and explore this machine! I’m hoping it will be a bit easier for me than the Organelle. We’ll see.

#237

Question as an expectant Euroburo-owner-to-be: what are folks experience with its internal sequencing toolset?

I ask because I am plotting a small standalone case (likely a 60HP 4ms Pod), and considering what I’d include. I imagined maybe a Pamela’s New Workout. Thanks.

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#238

I’m not a eurorack user but I have some experience with all kinds of digital modular systems and I have had the Zoia since December.

In my experience sequencing options have only been limited by my imagination and the CPU. I suppose that the sequencer module itself is fairly bare bones, I initially opened it up and thought “oh, the sequencer only goes in one direction, how dull.” It wasn’t dull. I was dull. My brain was dull. Using value modules or keyboards connected to in switches and then having a sequencer sequence the inputs meant that I could go any direction that I wanted. Since then I have really enjoyed the problem solving process on Zoia.

Zoia is also quite powerful on the lfo front so I wonder if you may find Pams a bit redundant. I find the filters on Zoia useful but fairly uninspiring so personally I would be looking at something nice in that area.

If you have any particular sequencing questions then I would be happy to see if I’m able to put together what you are after.

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#239

I know this feeling very well. :slight_smile: Thanks for this.

No immediate sequencer questions. Gonna watch more tutorials.

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#240

Exactly!

I love the Zoia so much that I’m thinking about saving for a mini system centred around the Euroburo and getting two lots of Zoia in my life. Yesterday I was sat watching Moog DFAM videos and the thought occurred to me to make my own version on the zoia. A few hours later I had a patch made up that contained not one but two DFAM emulations. I’m sure that the sound is perhaps not comparable but I have made up for it somewhat by having two of them and by giving the sequencers many more options, including easily setting up alternate lengths for polyrhythms, and having a sequencer track for the vca decay time as well as velocity.

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#241

When it comes to utilities and modulation I’ve wanted to do, I’ve only run into walls a few times, though they’re very well might be a solution. Setting up a Pam’s emulation was a breeze.

A couple of issues though. I’ve yet to figure out a means by which I can easily remember what a patch does. A first page control resolves that somewhat…but obviously not the same as having a detailed, physical and unique UI. The sheer amount of pages modules take up is overwhelming. Take a Pam’s emulation: that’s like 4 pages for the clocks and delays alone (but now that I’m writing maybe one doesn’t need 8 clock modules?..probably still a lot of pages). I think they’ve given up on “Supermodules” in favor of page importing. Don’t get me wrong it’s nice, but Supermodules would be nicer still. Third, if you setup a complicated patch, that’s your patch. You can’t patch it to another patch. Importing pages is nice but obviously not the same as just plugging a couple of cables. After awhile you get the hang of the UI though and things become easier. I would just advise you save a base patch you can come back to later before you start editing it further.

Maybe a bit OT. Anyway, gripes aside, it’s suuuuch a great bit of kit. I don’t think you’ll be wanting in sequencing.

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#242

So this. I have a number of emulations of things I’ve wanted. It’s an antacid.

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#243

Indeed! I have “solved” this by always having a dedicated Zoia notebook close at hand in which I can write little notes about each patch. I also try to label modules by their function as I go along, but I often get caught up in the patching and forget to do this.

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